Eyewitnesses saw the three dozen settlers descend on the lands, owned by Ibrahim Kayid, expressed horror as the group erected a tent and place an Israeli flag over top.
Kayid, whose sons Samer, 30, and Jamal, 20, were attacked by the descending mass and forced off the land. The farmer was dismayed, saying “this land is my only source of livelihood, what will I do now?”
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Not nice! They should pay the "market price"!
Friday, June 26, 2009
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We should send Anand to demand that they pay :)
ReplyDeleteAnand is my personal failure...Mea culpa.
ReplyDeleteWhere is fearless Obama?
ReplyDeleteHere is an aside for you, the Obama administration is here in the states, by mandate dispossessing people from their homes rather than working with them. So the Palestinians are not the only ones being thrown out of their homes (although their condition is hundreds of tims worse), but they are practicing it here.
ReplyDeleteLet me tell you how it works in simple terms. If you are a person in a troubled home, in danger of alling behind, or under water because the home is not worth the loan value etc. So why are they pushing people out and selling the houses at super low prices? Because your government is making the loan value on the books good - if they sell it low, the fat cats at the bank get the difference of the loan paid to them by the government. The people get kicked out and may become distitute - but not the bank, the bank gets full bang for the buck! Isn't that nice?
Here is an aside for you, the Obama administration is here in the states, by mandate dispossessing people from their homes rather than working with them. So the Palestinians are not the only ones being thrown out of their homes (although their condition is hundreds of tims worse), but they are practicing it here.
ReplyDeleteLet me tell you how it works in simple terms. If you are a person in a troubled home, in danger of falling behind, or under water because the home is not worth the loan value etc.
So why are they pushing people out and selling the houses at super low prices? Because your government is making the loan value on the books good - if they sell it low, the fat cats at the bank get the difference of the loan paid to them by the government. The people get kicked out and may become distitute - but not the bank, the bank gets full bang for the buck! Isn't that nice?
On top of this the previous home owners are being saddled with tax in regard to the previous home they owned. It is a bit complicated, but if people do not know what they are doing they are going to owe a shit load of taxes.
ReplyDeleteTGIA, who sold these "settlers" (very badly behaved ones I must say) this land?
ReplyDeleteWhat property deeds does Ibrahim Kayid have? Are they Ottoman empire property ownership deeds? Ibrahim Kayid needs some fancy attourney to represent him pro bono.
Part of the problem in Palestine seems to be that Turkey is cooperating with Israel and making it difficult for Palestinians to obtain their Ottoman empire era property ownership documents. I hope that Turkey changes its policy. {There are preliminary signs that Turkey is reconsidering its policies. However, Turkey's military and arms industry; as well as civilian economy, are closely integrated with Israel. They are resisting.}
v, in this case even Obama is scared.
ReplyDeleteThat is NOT the point Anand, nor the issue. There are not "rights" that Israel has to this land, and that is regardless of documentation or not - IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE ISRAELIS AND IT IS NOT FOR SALE. Get it straight, and get your stupid head out of your ass. We are sick and tired of explaining this to you - it is defined as 'OCCUPIED TERRIRTORY' not as up for grabs territory - nothing beyond the 67' borders is for sale, get it straight ass - it is not going to be explained to you again.
ReplyDeleteNo, Obama thinks some flowery speech is going to suffice, but it is not, it is worthless without action. We know and count every land grab and atrocity that takes place every day since his glorious speech, these atrocities are picking up speed. All the money needs to be cut off NOW, no time to waste - boycott, sanctions and divestment needs to be the watchwords. Israel needs to be turned out of the UN and banned, the same measures that were taken with South Africa need to be applied, minus the bleak outcome and settling for mere civil rights, there needs to be total liberation.
ReplyDeleteActing as though we are talking about some fucking real estate market in the middle of an illegal occupation, fuck off!
ReplyDeleteV, there are two seperate issues:
ReplyDelete1) Who owns the land. A Palestinian or Canadian can own land in Israel. An Israeli or Korean can own land in Palestine.
2) In what municipal authority that land is domiciled.
Issue 2 relates to "occupation." Issue 1 does not. The issue of property rights would continue regardless of whether a piece of land were in Palestine or Israel.
Issue 2 is important. For example, if a piece of land were domiciled in Palestine, then:
- The Palestinian government could collect property taxes on the land
- The Palestinian government could regulate the land
- The Palestinian government might be able to tax the business income of the owner of the land that derives from Palestine, subject to the tax treaties between Palestine and the country in question.
I don't really care "WHO" owns a particular piece of property, or the citizenship of the owner. This applies to any country. This is one reason I favor free investment, free business collaboration and free trade.
V, how would you persuade Israel's largest business collaboration partners (China, India, Japan, Europe, Russia) to impose sanctions on Israel.
ReplyDeleteFor that matter, how would you persuade muslim countries such as Indonesia, Malaysia and Turkey to impose sanctions on Israel?
Anand, are you completely retarded? You must be, because thisis not the basis of any ownership of land by the Israelis or the Palestinians. The areas are not disputed lands, they are occupied territories - Israel claims its charter from the UN, it claims its charter but throws off its responsibilities definitively in regard to the Palestinians. The law in regard to land in Israel does not reflect what you are saying either, all municipalities and land ownership is subordinated to the charter. This is why the international court of law called the wall illegal all agreeing with one mild retort. You have an abnormal condition in this region which overrides your ridiculous statements, stop listening to Zionist stooges and get a real education.
ReplyDeleteIf Obama does not care about his own peoples housing, than why would he care about the homes of other people? If he is giving and continuing to uplift and care for a small grup of elites here, why would he not do the same this in other countries - after all, they are just the systemic reflection of what is going on here. Indeed, if he specifically even sells out his own people why would he not sell out anyone else? He is White Power in Black face.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=fRc18PpkhU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xAJVri2a1U
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/deathinking/video/xv97g_public-enemy-1_people
If Obama does not care about his own peoples housing, than why would he care about the homes of other people? If he is giving and continuing to uplift and care for a small group of elites here, why would he not do the same in other countries - after all, they are just the systemic reflection of what is going on here? Indeed, if he specifically even sells out his own people why would he not sell out anyone else? He is White Power in Black face, he is the last stage of neocolonialism -
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=fRc18PpkhU0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xAJVri2a1U
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/deathinking/video/xv97g_public-enemy-1_people
This is because I do not want you to mistake what is taking place, and that is an attempt at divestment of the people all over the world for the few, at any cost. It is not an attempt to lift up people everywhere, but it is a course for the few in the dominant ring and their franchises all over the world (of further few elites) to help themselves to what belongs to the people. They will continue to try to prop this up, until it destroys the people all over the world. They need to be stopped NOW -
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Q3BVsIBzY