Saturday, November 7, 2009
Muslims at Fort Voice Outrage and Ask Questions
“When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal,” said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. “But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.
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Muslims voice OUTRAGE? LOL
ReplyDeleteWhen someone goes postal, or on a high school shooting rampage, they almost always do it for personal reasons. Perceived mistreatment by peers, whatever.
When this dude went nutso, he first yelled out the muslim "Allah Akkbar". He also posted on websites, equating suicide bombings and such with heroic acts. Clearly then, he positioned his actions as a MUSLIM purposely engaging in jihad against (unarmed) US troops.
Its obvious this was a jihad-inspired act. Thus there will be nasty consequences for muslims -- in the US and abroad. Its clear muslims and non-muslims are only moving further apart. There is some politeness on the surface, but ultimately our cultures are incompatible and cannot co-exist. At some point the rend will become too great to ever mend. "Peace advocates" should be gravely concerned.
But they do co-exist, Fleming. There are millions of Muslims co-existing right now in this country. In my neighborhood, there are thousands of Muslims, living together peacefully with Whites, Hispanics, Chinese, etc. I have lived here two and a half years and have never seen a fight due to a culture clash. You must live in a more homogenous area.
ReplyDeleteNot at all Molly. I live in a very diverse area.
ReplyDeleteLike I said, there is politeness and tolerance on the surface. But ultimately there are huge differences between the two cultures that make us incompatible, long term.
They said this about many other immigrant groups. Anyway, if you lived where I lived, you'd feel differently.
ReplyDelete<span><span>This is the link for the article.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/07/us/07muslim.html
He said he should quit the Army,” Mr. Reasoner said. “In the Koran, you’re not supposed to have alliances with Jews or Christian or others, and if you are killed in the military fighting against Muslims, you will go to hell.”
Mr. Benjamin, who worked as a private contractor in Iraq and Afghanistan after leaving the Army in 2000, said the military should have let Major Hassan resign. “They should take more consideration of the human beings in the uniform,” he said, “rather than simply say, ‘We invested our money in you and need to get our money’s worth.’ ”
Still, Mr. Benjamin added, Major Hassan had overlooked an important, and peaceable, tenet of Islam. “We do have the right to retaliate,” he said, “but he who does not is twice blessed.”
Then what, may I ask, is any Muslim who believes that, doing in the U.S military? And it is fair to ask why they are here in the first place?</span></span>
Only if you ask how a Jew or Christian can be in the military when the Ten Commandments clearly prohibits murder. But the answer to why any of them would go against certain aspects of their religion is really very smple: 1. Religions tend to be more of a club than a moral code. 2. It's really possible to justify anything with religion. If you don't like what the Ten Commandments have to say about murder, just find a passage that fits your plans.
ReplyDeleteer, ahm, Joe, killing one's enemy in a war, before they kill you, is not considered "murder". FYI
ReplyDeleteListen here asshole..If you don't want people to be your enemies stop being theirs as a starter..Is this clear enough for your Neanderthaal brain?
ReplyDelete<span>For 60 years and over your country has been meddling in the M.E helping, backing and supporting occupation and dispossession and you feign ignprance of the motives that push people to resent your country's policies..A brain is there to think and reflect and not for decoration purposes, Cro Magnon!</span>
ReplyDeleteProbably you would say dropping a one ton bomb on a densely populated city to get one person isn't murder either. But I'm not going to debate that point. You don't like that quote? How about "Beat your swords into ploughshares" or "Turn the other cheek". My point is still valid, you can find a quote from the Scriptures to justify anything you want to do.
ReplyDeleteThat was me.
ReplyDeleteWhy did the "dance in the streets" You ask?
ReplyDeleteHave a look at this piece by Jean Bricmont:
<span style=" color: #990000; ">The De-Zionization of the American Mind</span>
<span style=" ">By JEAN BRICMONT</span>
Excerpt:
<span style="font-family: Verdana;">And there can be only one explanation: United States support for Israel. It is indeed Israel that is the main object of hatred, for reasons we shall describe, but since the United States uncritically supports Israel on almost every issue, constantly praises it as "the only democracy in the Middle East" and provides its main financial backing, the result is a "transfer" of hatred.</span>
http://www.counterpunch.org/bricmont08122006.html
<span style="font-family: Verdana;">"Finally, just imagine that the United States would make a 180 turn and suddenly side with the Palestinians, as they did with the Kosovars against the Serbs--who, by the way, were, like the Israelis, richer and more "Western" than their Albanian adversaries . Such a change of policies is by no means impossible : when Indonesia invaded East Timor in 1975, the US supported the invasion by providing most of Indonesia's weapons. Yet, 25 years later, the US supported, or at least did not oppose, East Timor's accession to independence. </span>
ReplyDelete<span style="font-family: Verdana;">What effect would that have? Can anyone doubt that such a change of policy would facilitate U.S. access to oil fields and help it gain strategic allies (if any were still needed) throughout the Muslim world? In the Middle East, the main charge against the United States is that it is pro-Israel, because it lets itself be "manipulated by the Jews". Therefore, if Washington switched sides, there would be no more basis for hostility to U.S. presence, including its control over oil. Thus the notion of Israel as "strategic ally" makes no sense."</span>
<span>Listen here asshole..If you don't want people to be your enemies stop being theirs as a starter..Is this clear enough for your Neanderthaal brain?</span>
ReplyDeleteThere it is. I knew it would come. What the tgias of the world want us to know. That if we dont behave according to their liking, they are going to kick our ass. Right tgia? Gosh we are soooo intimidated.
No! Its time for you folks to realize. You must heel. Not us.
Finally, just imagine that the United States would make a 180 turn and suddenly side with the Palestinians, as they did with the Kosovars against the Serbs--w
ReplyDeleteI know that is your fantasy - that we suddenly "make the switch". Not going to happen.
No one really cared or understood what was going on in Serbia. We still dont. But the Mideast, we get. Or at least enough to know who are friends and enemies are.
I mean sure, we could have suddently change sides and fought with Germany in WWII. All those dday deaths would have been avoided. But we didnt.
Then you have only YOURSELF to blame!!!
ReplyDeleteFor the billionth time: If you don't want to be hated and attacked, stop proking hatred and attacks..Simple!
ReplyDelete<span>Fleming
ReplyDeleteIs it you who send this to As'ad?
I have been receiving a lot of hate mail this week. A sample:</span>
<span> "What needs to happen is simple: - Nuclear blasts evaporates Mecca and 3 or 4 other "holy sites" - The remains of all the dead sand niggers are fed to hogs- The rest of sand niggerville is forced to eat the hog meat or face the same mushroom cloud fate - If necessary, rinse and repeat... HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHA..."
It's unequivocally your style</span>
You're one deranged bastard fleming..The HAHA is unmistakebly you!!
ReplyDelete<span style="border-collapse: collapse; color: #333333; font-family: arial; line-height: 18px;">There are currently 20,000 Muslims serving with honour in the US military, according to the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council.</span>
ReplyDeleteIt doesnt work like that tgia. We are NEVER going to acquiesce to demands that we do or behave in a certain way. NEVER. We are NEVER going to abandon our friends and allies to appease an enemy. NEVER.
ReplyDeleteDo I need to be any clearer?
Does it matter whether I deny? You have already made your mind up. Sure, I made up the whole HAHAHAH thing.
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
If Prof Asad wants to stop receiving hate mail perhaps he should stop doing things that provoke hatred and attacks. Hmmmm, where did I read that? LOL
The angry arab writes things on a blog, not bombs people. Big difference.
ReplyDeleteThis organization also said this:
ReplyDelete<span><span>A Muslim veteran affairs organization says it has not received reports of harassment from Islamic soldiers, contrary to claims by a relative of the man authorities say is responsible for the worst mass killing on a U.S. military base.</span></span>
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572588,00.html
Really Molly? Gosh how silly of me to compare the two....LOL
ReplyDeleteMy comment was meant sarcastically. You suffer from the Joe/tgia syndrome. Total lack of sense of humor, with poor appreciation for dry wit.
<span>You wrote the mail bastard and you did NOT deny..</span>
ReplyDelete2 days ago you posted almost the same words followed by the same nevrotic haha.
How about the "sand nigger" you posted to me 2 weeks ago?
ReplyDeleteSand nigger? You think Im the only one who might use that term??
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH
Of course not. There are other sickos out there. But the combo, Nuclear blasts, Mecca, sand niggers and capital case ha ha is tpically yours, sorry!
ReplyDeleteI still see that you haven't denied..You're just trying to drown a fish..
ReplyDelete"<span style=""> But ultimately there are huge differences between the two cultures that make us incompatible, long term.<span style="">" Oh my God! I think Fleming really believes this!</span></span>
ReplyDeleteFleming doesn't speak for all Americans. Why should Americans automatically side with Israel? What does Israel do for America?
ReplyDelete"<span style="">when Indonesia invaded East Timor in 1975, the US supported the invasion by providing most of Indonesia's weapons.<span style="">" Um, TGIA, the entire world backed Indonesia, especially the entire muslim world. Indonesia and India were then leaders of the Non Aligned movement which was against both the USSR and US. Can you name a single country that didn't back Indonesia in 1975?</span></span>
ReplyDeleteWhat support did America provide Indonesia in 1975?
"<span style="">For 60 years and over your country has been meddling in the M.E helping, backing and supporting occupation and dispossession<span style="">" I believe you are referring to Israel. If so, you do realize that the USSR and Eastern Block backed Israel in 1948. America didn't elect a pro Israeli President until John F Kennedy in 1960. Therefore you should say 49 years versus 60 years.</span></span>
ReplyDeleteHey anan, dumb shit - here is what happened in East Timor. If you do not watch it I do not want to see another dumb shit post from you regarding East Timor - got it?
ReplyDeleteDEATH OF A NATION
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhaBSPGBXco
V, I have read a fair bit about East Timur. Forgive me for not watching your video. Why don't you watch one of my favorites:
ReplyDelete<span style="font-family: Tahoma; white-space: pre;">http://www.luxlucis.sg/index.swf</span>
My point stands, the entire muslim world and the entire nonalligned movement backed Indonesia. The Soviets also tried to reach out to Indonesia. Kissinger felt that America could not be the only country in the world that alone stood up for East Timur and joined the rest of the world in tacitly supporting Indonesia.
Kissinger is a jerk to be true, a lot like Lou Dobbs, Anne Coulter, Amy Goodman, Gore Vidal and some other Americans.
But V, if you are going to blast America, then blast every other country on earth too, especially the non aligned movement (lead by Indonesia and India) and the entire global muslim Ummah; both of which were more pro Indonesian than the US.
Indonesia didn't support the US in the cold war, far from it. Many in the US regarded Indonesia as a soft Soviet ally in the cold war. Remember that Indonesia and China had quite a bit of tension in the 1960s and 1970s. America and China were allied against the Soviets. Indonesia if anything tilted with the Soviets against China and the US.
Interesting thing about China though. China supported the Indonesians in East Timur (perhaps to establish a precedent for Tibet, Arunachal Pradesh, Taiwan, Hong Kong) and armed Indonesia.
ReplyDeleteChina felt that India and Indonesia jointly represented a threat against them; and tried to win Indonesia over from India.
In 1971, Indonesia seemed to tilt slightly against India and for China. {In what nearly ended the world . . . a USSR/India against China/US global Armageddon.}
Thanks for the stat Molly. Thank God so many Muslim Americans are protecting the world from the evil doers, keeping all of us safe.
ReplyDeleteThat is OK anan, you do not have to watch it - it does not change one bit of the heavily documented facts, al it proves is the closed nature of you're propagandized mind. You're ignorance does not mean one wit anan, it is willful and deep. Too bad you put yourself in cast plaster, because when it shatters there will be no retrieval. You live in a fantasy world that you callously cling to, no mercy for others will result in no mercy for you.
ReplyDeleteFleming I think we all have a grasp of you're need to be a racist, you have to rush to the last bastion of "sand niggers" because everything else has been denied to you. In fact this is all that you have left, poor fellow, you cannot argue you're way out of a paper bag.
ReplyDeleteIf you folks want to hate us (americans), be my guest. We are not going to change to make you like us. Really, we could care less. We are 1000 times more powerful, in every way. So why should we even consider bowing to your demands?
ReplyDeleteInverse Amy Goodman/Gore Vidal/Michael Moore philosophy. At its root is the assumption that the only country that affects the world is America.
ReplyDeleteIt is this mentality that foreigners laugh at.
Foreigners like you, anan?
ReplyDeleteup yours.
ReplyDeleteWhen my husband was growing up in Saudi Arabia, the southerners he lived near called his family (including the children) sandniggers.
ReplyDelete<span>We are 1000 times more powerful, in every way. So why should we even consider bowing to your demands?</span>
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Yes fleming..Your dick is bigger than ours..Happy.
:)
<span> the southerners </span>
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Saudi southereners? That's weird..
<span>up yours.</span>
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fleming doesn't have an ass anan. He calls a head.
And that makes you the biggest dick in the world..
ReplyDelete<span>Or is it American Southereners in Saudi? ..
ReplyDeleteMaybe they've been importing wackos because the ones they breed themselves aren't efficient enough to build a fucked up society..Who knows?</span>
No anan. From the start Truman was blackmailed by the Zionists to back the inception of a state or he'd be driven out of town..The facts are there.
ReplyDeleteNo, it was American Southerners, tgia. He lived in an Aramco town, surrounded by American southerners, midwesterners, and a few Arabs and Indians.
ReplyDeleteDon't dismiss Onan like that. flem, he'll kiss your yankee arse to be accepted. He is your Karzai, your Maliki, your Marcos. You need these collaborators to run your empire for you while you're cataloguing your loot and boosting the Colombian economy.
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