Monday, May 4, 2009

The shame of Palestine: Palestinian Authority

PA forces working to root out Hamas, Hezbollah agents
Some 18 months ago, the defense establishment in Israel began targeting the civil infrastructure of Hamas in the West Bank, which consists primarily of various philanthropic and social service networks.
However, several months later Israel passed on the handling of the containment effort to the PA, which continues to raid Hamas-run institutions and arrest its activists.
In Israel the claim is that the Palestinians are more effective in this role than the Israel Defense Forces or the Shin Bet security services would be.
One of the recent catches by PA security was a large data bank of a Hamas network in Nablus.
......A senior security source said PA security forces are operating in the West Bank in a manner that is "considerably better than at any time during the past 15 years," marking the period since the Oslo B agreements went into effect and Israel transferred security responsibility for parts of the West Bank to the Palestinians.
Yes, because thats all that Oslo was. Never a real freedom for the Palestinian people, just a different type of cage for them. A chance to let the occupation continue unabated but instead of a Jewish occupation you put a Palestinian face to fool the world. Just another Israeli joke, you can never trust that these people will ever make some real type of change.
Can you remember when those fools left Gazza and they made some big show about how they were ending the occupation of Gazza?
When you take 15 mins to read about the siege in Gazza can anyone really say that Gazza is not occupied?
Can you believe that these two pieces of news are from today the one about PA success against Hamas and Hezbollah and this one about how useless the Palestinian police are to help Palestinian people?
It would make alot of sense to just give Pal. Authority Israeli IOF uniforms that way there can be less confusion for people.
I would prefer to see them in orange jumpsuits.
Israeli restrictions prevent Palestinian police from pursuing criminals
HEBRON, Occupied West Bank: When Nasser Qaout went to investigate strange sounds in his sheep pen late at night, a gang of armed thieves shot him in the leg and made off with half his flock. He and Palestinian police know who the thieves are - and even where they are - but a year-and-a-half later, they're still in their homes about 5 kilometers down the road.
Police say they can't arrest the crooks because they live in an Israeli-controlled area, which Palestinian forces can't enter freely. It's a unique dilemma for Palestinian law enforcement: how to maintain security when criminals have more freedom of movement than police do.

12 comments:

  1. Fatah absolutely disgusts me...
     
    I am curious what you all think about the following interview:
     
     
    Addressing U.S., Hamas Says It Grounded Rockets
     
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/05/world/middleeast/05meshal.html?_r=2&scp=1&sq=meshal&st=cse
     
    Do you consider what Meshal said to be along the same line as that of Fatah?
     
     
     

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  2. Marion, I dont know yet but I have seen the comments that Professor Abu Khalil wrote on his blog.  I understand those sentiments and I understand why people can see Hamas actions and Fath actions and say they are the same.
    But I want to see what Hamas will continue to do, if they will continue to make concessions and my family will continue to get starved in Gazza then I will start my attacks on them as being an illigetimate resistance movement.
    But as corrupt as Fath?  I dont know if that can happen.

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  3. Anand has said before that what Gaza really needs is for Karl Rove to get hired as their public relations spinmeister!
          Fatah is exactly what he would do Anand. It's already happenend, and the same Machiavellian manipulations and duplicitous corruption that trailed Rove everywhere is there in Fatah as well. Hope you are happy.

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  4. Its easy to get tangled in the web of Anands stupidity and spend to much time responding to his questions that he can find on google search or that he can figure out himself if he spends two minutes processing some information in his head.
    Now I scroll past 97 percent of his comments.

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  5. With Fath you have another level of the idea of collaborators. Before they used to be shady characters that faded in and out of the woodwork of any given society, with Fath you have a visible group that is trying to be passed off as legitimate. An attempt to raise collaborators to the position of prominence so that all that is demanded by the Israelis can be seen as the supposed aspirations of the Palestinian people.
     
    The whole charade plays on the ignorance that is especially rife in the USA, because this is where the main paycheck for the murderous illegal occupation comes from.  It is indeed possible that the whole Fath vs. Hamas scenario is a good cop bad cop play.  Sort of like a plan "a" - plan "b" farce, because in this playpen almost anything is possible in trying to undo the Palestinians. The division itself is all that counts, because it weakens the people.  If Fath wins it is business as usual, if Hamas wins how much different is it?
     
    Perhaps the only winning hand is for both parties to be rejected out of hand, and for all artifical distinctions which have been created by the enemy to be rejected. Than with full unity the people should arise in all of these areas and unite, wipe the slate clean, and pursue complete liberation.  The goal must be the entire territory transformed into a true state of equal rights for all, which results in the death of colonial, Apartheid and racist Zionsm.

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  6. Interesting comments V.
    I have a prediction, in the next elections Palestinians will vote for Hamas again.
    The Israelis will release Marwan Barghouti.
    Fatah will think they are "reborn"
    Barghouti will fail.

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  7. I propose we call them fatass instead.

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  8. "Guest" above was Anand, the capitalista free market fundamentalist Jihadi! :-$

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  9. <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">Interesting comments v. I agree with some of them. The Palestinians would be a lot better off and have a lot more leverage if they unify. My hope is for a unity Hamas/Fatah government to lead Palestine for now.  
       
    Later, however, I hope the Palestinians vote both the thugs out in favor of a true noncorrupt populist (who I hope will also be free market.) Maybe Barghouti.</span>

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  10. <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">I should use Hamas' recent positive actions to argue on their behalf at MJT. Hamas are not the devils they are projected to be. America should reach out to Hamas. Israel should also directly negotiate with Hamas.  
       
    My hope is that Fatah and Hamas form a national unity government, gain leverage, and then use that leverage in final settlement talks with israel.</span>

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  11. <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">"...noncorrupt populist (who I hope will also be free market.)"</span> 
      
    Hahahahahahaha...have you been smoking that stinky charras again?

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  12. <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">My hope is for a unity Hamas/Fatah government to lead Palestine for now.   </span>
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    Yes, your REAl hope is that eventually Palestinians unite in submission, finally displaying "goodwill" and rational understanding of the forces on the ground, accepting Israel entirely, and settling into a resigned mood leading to permanent bantustization. This would bring enduring "peace" and the crowning of the Zionist utopia. Do you really think for a second that we are going to fall for your silly impersonations and fraudulent masks?

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