Mondo, even though he is a fairly sharp fellow in some ways, seems to put an aweful lot in a process that has produced zero. than again, this could be what I mentioned before, the tendency to place legitimacy in something which has none.
But v, you don't think that there is something in the body language of Obama ?? He did not point his legs in the direction of Peres... maybe because he did not want to do a lot of talking? There was a good article from Haaretz today by G Levy he called Peres the Minister of Propaganda....
If he really is giving the cold shoulder (or cold knee) to the Terrorist Leader, then I'm all for it -- if it actually shows up as policy. And if it does I'll be happy to give him massive, major points for it. It may even be enough to balance out the massive, major points he's losing for ginning up a war in Pakistan and bombing civilians there.
No, America's leaders who do not listen to the people, but only to a fetid little elite group that "supports" Israel and seemingly hates the Palestinians. Get it right gueat, or, when we sack all of them one way or another you will be immensely confused (more like overthrow them).
As far as Obama goes, IMHO, unless there is a HUGE groundswell from below of the American public demanding change, then he is just going to be used by super powerful lobbies(Banking.military, AIPAC, energy companies,etc.) to further their agendas. He is a good "spokesmodel". He could do hugely successful toothpaste commercials! :-$
i mean really folks, what do you need to know about Obama? He took trillions of dollars (between 5 or 6) and gave it to banks unaccountably, what more do you need to know? he has put the worst imaginable cabinet together, do you need some further information on this? he has done nothing but make foreign policy decisions which will increase the misery in the region(s) you say you care about, do you want to invite him home for dinner? i know its hard to "not" support this fake, but try to control yourself
I find a lot more telling the death of more than one hundred women, babies, children and innocent men in recent bombings by the US in Afghanistan. Let's admit it, Obama is just what he is, and nothing transpiring within "normal" political parameters, is going to change that: the head of an empire. He may be a more benevolent emperor than Bush, but an emperor nonetheless.
"The Golden Mean, the golden spiral, the golden section. They all stand for the same thing...a special proportion found prevalently both in nature and also in classical architecture and art. The proportion is almost magical in its ability to create a pleasing ratio of space. I feel it is a perfect example of the math behind the scenes at work. I have read a lot on this topic over the last few years. The concept was revealed to me when I read this book on Maxfield Parrish and learned of Dynamic Symmetry. This is another mathematical-related formula upon which a supposedly superior arrangement of space is based. I find the math behind things most fascinating. The connections between these ratios and music, art, architecture and even more important, species in nature is most amazing and probably more than coincidental. I at one point was doing collage on pieces of paper that I had cut to golden mean proportions. I really enjoyed working with a slightly longer piece of paper. However, framing these works is much more expensive. They are not a standard size and mattes and frames had to have custom sizes. I haven't delved into framing too many of these older works due to the financial cost of this. But I won't deny that I still am tweaked over the idea of using the Golden Mean. In fact, reading about this book for sale has me all fired up again to do something with all this math. "Because of its aesthetic qualities, embodied in its unique ability to relate the parts to the whole," writes Olsen, "golden ratios are used in the design of many modern household items." Credit cards, for instance, are very close to the 8 by 5 Fibonacci approximation of phi. Surely no one ever designed the first credit cards to reflect phi, but the ratio does seem to be inherently attractive. Olsen demonstrates that phi shows up in spirals of DNA, in human proportions, in icosahedrons, and so many other places. His handsome and accessible book is an exercise in an appealing numerology." Recently I ordered this book from Amazon called The Elements of Dynamic Symmetry. It is heavy on math and quite deep. I am not certain I need to go over the top anal about this, but I want to incorporate this idea into my work further." http://collageclearinghouse.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html
I can see what he wants to say by recoiling but it's not necessarily out of fear or apprehension but recoiling there is! Obama is undoubtedly the center of attention here. He is placed in that part of the picture which is called the Golden mean or the Golden ratio. Very early on, artists have discovered this compositional device and is still widely used nowadays. If you want an element of your design(Obama here) to be the center of attention, you should never place it in the dead center but rather in that section which is roughly around the third division of the picture picture plane, horizantally and vertically. In many ways it's related to the Fibonacci numbers but without going through this tedious process now, the formula goes like this: a+b/a= a/b= phi...a and b being two sides of the rectangle(picture plane) ...You end up with the number 1.618,which means that the ratio of the largest part of the picture plane to the smallest is 1.68 to 1. This decimal representation is also called "phi", a Greek letter. Strangely enough it is every where in nature but this is another subject. The recoiling Mondo is talking about is represented here in a spiral fitting in the Golden ratio part.
Absolutely...This formula has been observed to be behind an extremely wide range of phenomenae in nature AND the Universe not only in art or architecturte, but music and the DNA structure itself. So why not in history?
I thought you all might be interested in reading from some the following of interest articles:
<h1>A tirade against Israel</h1> <div id="EC_lead">Parliament speaker Fathi Sorour refuses to join Israeli efforts to isolate the Iranian president, reports Gamal Essam El-Din</div> <div> </div> <div> <h1><span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/945/eg6.htm</span></span></h1>
<h1>Slipping the limelight</h1> <div id="EC_lead">As Lebanon approaches national elections not all those recently pivotal remain so, writes Omayma Abdel-Latif from Beirut</div> </div> <div> </div> <div> <h1><span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/945/re08.htm</span></span></h1>
<h1>Friendly' fire</h1> <div id="EC_lead">Who is behind the current escalation of violence mere weeks before the scheduled withdrawal of US troops from Iraq cities? Is it friend or foe, asks Nermeen Al-Mufti</div> </div> <div> </div> <div> <h1><span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/945/re01.htm</span></span></h1>
<h1>Hardliners on both sides</h1> <div id="EC_lead">Iraq has recently been ravaged by bombings, but it could be even worse, writes Salah Hemeid</div> </div> <div> </div> <div> <h1><span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/945/re02.htm</span></span></h1> <h1>Existential conditions</h1> <div id="EC_lead">Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa says he is more concerned with inter-Arab fighting than with Iranian intentions towards the Arab world. Dina Ezzat listens</div> </div> <div> </div> <div> <h1><span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/945/re07.htm</span></span></h1>
<span style="font-size: small;">US hides behind Iran sanctions threat</span> By Kaveh L Afrasiabi
Yay! Saif has seen the light. He called the Messiah "my President!" Yes, Saif, he is the chosen one. He is the one you have been looking for!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am looking for a direct quote from Kofi Annan regarding Israel having ended its occupation of Lebonon in 2000. My understanding is that Syria had invaded and occupied Lebonese Shi'ba farms before 1967. However, most of the land was owned by Lebonese. These Lebanese continued to own the land deeds for the land under Syrian occupation. Israel occuped the Golan Heights and Shi'ba farms in 1967.
Now Syria seems to imply that Shi'ba farms is part of Lebanon. I think the Lebonese should ask Syria for a formal treaty specifying that Shi'ba farms is part of Lebonan in writing. Then Lebanon could formally request the land from Israel. The Lebanese can't trust Asad as far as they can throw him.
Craig reminded me: "PS-There is an eyewitness in teh Kazemi case too, in that Zahra Kazemi was healthy and unharmed when arrested, and when the police brought her to the hospital she was was badly abused and fatally injured. According to the doctor who treated her."
Yay! Saif has seen the light. He called the Messiah "my President!" ---------- Hmmm...No anand...they're Mondo's words...See the quotation marks? Sigh* .
My understanding is that Syria had invaded and occupied Lebonese Shi'ba farms before 1967. ----------- Could you please stop the BS anand...For the sake of our sanity!...Always remember that you're talking to Lebanese people over here not Guatemalteques or better still Americans!! Your understanding is not only wrong, it's surrealistic! .
If only you could check your "facts" before you post them that'll be more merciful of our nerves and sanity!! No, Syria did not "invade and occupy" Shib'aa farms neither before nor ater 1967...I'm very irritated that you force on us unbelievable horseshit as facts. .
Sorry for the jargon Marion but this is very hard to explain without a pencil and a paper. Roughly it's about composition and where to place what you want to paint, a figure a portrait, an object etc. You can of course place it in the center like many artists did and still do ut this is perceived to be rather poor , boring and totaqlly uninteresting. That's why placing an object off center is more appealing and compelling. The Golden mean uses a mathematical formula to find that very part or section which makes a picture more pleasing. So here it is.I hope this will do. .
I am curious did Hezbollah admit to capturing and torturing Higgins, or is this basically what they have been accused of doing? Isn't it very possible that a number of other groups in Lebanon could have been responsible for such?
And if Hezbollah has a habit of capturing and torturing people, there must be many more examples you can give us other than this one example...
Can you explain why Hezbollah did not capture and torture many of the SLA members who had been working with the Israeli military, and running a prison in Khiam on their behalf which torured many Lebanese people, rather than turning them over to the Lebanese Army when Israel unilaterally withdrew(were forced out by Hezbollah) from South Lebanon in 2000?
SOme background info for you: Chaos, humiliation, bloodshed:
And why did Hezbollah not torture the "businessman" reservist Israeli colonal(Mossad Agent?) Elhanan Tannenbaum<span style="font-size: x-small;"> </span>who they lured to Lebanon and captured in 2000 to bargain for a future prisoner exchange in 2004?
What Moyhabin said. The talk about Pakistan right now is really frightening -- it sounds just like the chitter-chatter about Iraq right before we decided to illegally invade it. Everyone in the media oohed and aahed over His Magnificence's "First Hundred Days" without once noting that among his first acts (within days, literally, of taking office) was to bomb the f*** out of Pakistani citizens. I'm sorry if I keep mentioning this d'you think I'm just a little pissed off about it???
Oh and his recent talk to South American leaders was really a masterpiece of condescending claptrap, but I can't explain it any better than John Caruso at TinyRevolution blog (scroll down to the post titled "Historic Suspicions").
He also has a short post about "the peace process" up today:
Marion, I trust Craig to say what he thinks is correct. Note that I am not arguing that Hezbollah tortures more than Amal, Palestinians, Sunni Arabs or Christians in Lebonan. I am merely providing sourcing to VAA that Hezbollah also tortures.
It's not just Pakistan, you hideous little piece of jellyfish. He's also causing tremendous suffering among civilians in Afghanistan. Dear friends, I think it's time to ask our compassion-boy here to leave this blog ASAP.
anand: <table class="js-singleCommentBodyT" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr style="vertical-align: top;"> <td style="padding-bottom: 8px;" colspan="2"> <div class="js-singleCommentText">Yay! Saif has seen the light. He called the Messiah "my President!" Yes, Saif, he is the chosen one. He is the one you have been looking for!!!!!!!!!!!!! </div> <div class="js-singleCommentText">Anand, the words "my president" were not Saif's but the caption underneath the photo from mondoweiss blog.</div> <div class="js-singleCommentText">Anand of Absurdistan: <table class="js-singleCommentBodyT" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%"> <tbody> <tr style="vertical-align: top;"> <td style="padding-bottom: 8px;" colspan="2"> <div class="js-singleCommentText">Thank God Obama is bombing Pakistan. Go Obama!!!!!!!!!!!</div> <div class="js-singleCommentText">O' looney one, Your murderous designs are obvious to everyone, as is your silliness and hypocricy.</div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> </div> <div class="js-singleCommentText"> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
Welcome to the empire, employment at 20 year low, and more bellyaching about about the banks needing 75 more billion with no strings attached, while people are being murdered all over the world. The stock market goes up...
I trust Craig to say what he thinks is correct. ------------- Like when he said that Arabs have a monopoly on mass murder? Or that supporting the Palestinians' right to a state is rewarding and supporting terrorism? .
TGIA, are you saying that Shi'ba farms was not occuped by Syria in 1967? ---------- Are you saying that Syria attacked Lebanon and the Lebanese army and occupied Shib'aa farms? How did this invasion/occupation take place?
anand I've had my Valium, It took you several days to come up with a feeble wikipedia's link in response to several comments that you were certain of at the time. A link about a woman that was allegedly tortured in Iran . A far cry from what you stated in your comment implying mass scale torture that is part of the culture in that part of the world.( Remember ?) I can't be bothered looking up your links as if you're genuine.But there is something you should however inform yourself about."Wikepedia" and how careful one should be in using it as a reliable source ,as per this articleThe Syrian occupied the Sheeb'a Farms ????????????????? .It seems there is lack of co-ordination between your fingers and your brain or lack of it.With comments like "Thank God Obama is bombing Pakistan" Have you any idea how many innocent people died. You should preserve whatever dignity is left in you (not much) and stop it here.And so will I. Your ignorance/retardness is truly beyond belief.
Mondo, even though he is a fairly sharp fellow in some ways, seems to put an aweful lot in a process that has produced zero. than again, this could be what I mentioned before, the tendency to place legitimacy in something which has none.
ReplyDeleteLook at Raum Emanual's face which appears to be full of glee...
ReplyDeleteYes I noticed Emmnaules face,,,,
ReplyDeleteBut v, you don't think that there is something in the body language of Obama ?? He did not point his legs in the direction of Peres... maybe because he did not want to do a lot of talking? There was a good article from Haaretz today by G Levy he called Peres the Minister of Propaganda....
Americans support Israel and hate the Philistines.
ReplyDeleteI really want to like Obama more than I do.
ReplyDeleteWhy?
ReplyDeleteIf he really is giving the cold shoulder (or cold knee) to the Terrorist Leader, then I'm all for it -- if it actually shows up as policy. And if it does I'll be happy to give him massive, major points for it. It may even be enough to balance out the massive, major points he's losing for ginning up a war in Pakistan and bombing civilians there.
No, America's leaders who do not listen to the people, but only to a fetid little elite group that "supports" Israel and seemingly hates the Palestinians. Get it right gueat, or, when we sack all of them one way or another you will be immensely confused (more like overthrow them).
ReplyDeleteWhy Molly?
ReplyDeleteLOL! I have to admit so do I, but I cannot unless I see some real underlying changes....
ReplyDeleteAs far as Obama goes, IMHO, unless there is a HUGE groundswell from below of the American public demanding change, then he is just going to be used by super powerful lobbies(Banking.military, AIPAC, energy companies,etc.) to further their agendas. He is a good "spokesmodel".
ReplyDeleteHe could do hugely successful toothpaste commercials! :-$
i mean really folks, what do you need to know about Obama? He took trillions of dollars (between 5 or 6) and gave it to banks unaccountably, what more do you need to know? he has put the worst imaginable cabinet together, do you need some further information on this? he has done nothing but make foreign policy decisions which will increase the misery in the region(s) you say you care about, do you want to invite him home for dinner? i know its hard to "not" support this fake, but try to control yourself
ReplyDeleteThis photo means something beyond psychobabble?
ReplyDeleteI doubt it.
I find a lot more telling the death of more than one hundred women, babies, children and innocent men in recent bombings by the US in Afghanistan. Let's admit it, Obama is just what he is, and nothing transpiring within "normal" political parameters, is going to change that: the head of an empire. He may be a more benevolent emperor than Bush, but an emperor nonetheless.
Someone forgot to bury Peres Saif, where are funeral directors when you need them?
ReplyDeleteYes, I wouold like to smack him in the face with a rotten fish
ReplyDeleteThis doesn't look good at all either: Blogsphere Wakes Up On Obama's War
ReplyDeleteYes, I agree with All of You....
ReplyDeleteSome times pictures can be like art and other people see some thing you missed, thats why I posted and asked.
ReplyDelete;)
This painting by Monet illustrates the Golden mean. The tower is placed in that section 1.618.
ReplyDelete"The Golden Mean, the golden spiral, the golden section. They all stand for the same thing...a special proportion found prevalently both in nature and also in classical architecture and art. The proportion is almost magical in its ability to create a pleasing ratio of space. I feel it is a perfect example of the math behind the scenes at work. I have read a lot on this topic over the last few years. The concept was revealed to me when I read this book on Maxfield Parrish and learned of Dynamic Symmetry. This is another mathematical-related formula upon which a supposedly superior arrangement of space is based.
ReplyDeleteI find the math behind things most fascinating. The connections between these ratios and music, art, architecture and even more important, species in nature is most amazing and probably more than coincidental.
I at one point was doing collage on pieces of paper that I had cut to golden mean proportions. I really enjoyed working with a slightly longer piece of paper. However, framing these works is much more expensive. They are not a standard size and mattes and frames had to have custom sizes. I haven't delved into framing too many of these older works due to the financial cost of this. But I won't deny that I still am tweaked over the idea of using the Golden Mean. In fact, reading about this book for sale has me all fired up again to do something with all this math.
"Because of its aesthetic qualities, embodied in its unique ability to relate the parts to the whole," writes Olsen, "golden ratios are used in the design of many modern household items." Credit cards, for instance, are very close to the 8 by 5 Fibonacci approximation of phi. Surely no one ever designed the first credit cards to reflect phi, but the ratio does seem to be inherently attractive. Olsen demonstrates that phi shows up in spirals of DNA, in human proportions, in icosahedrons, and so many other places. His handsome and accessible book is an exercise in an appealing numerology."
Recently I ordered this book from Amazon called The Elements of Dynamic Symmetry. It is heavy on math and quite deep. I am not certain I need to go over the top anal about this, but I want to incorporate this idea into my work further."
http://collageclearinghouse.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html
No, I know. We just really needed someone to be the anti-Bush, turn everything around that Bush destroyed.
ReplyDeleteMondo is right ...sort of!!
ReplyDeleteI can see what he wants to say by recoiling but it's not necessarily out of fear or apprehension but recoiling there is! Obama is undoubtedly the center of attention here. He is placed in that part of the picture which is called the Golden mean or the Golden ratio. Very early on, artists have discovered this compositional device and is still widely used nowadays. If you want an element of your design(Obama here) to be the center of attention, you should never place it in the dead center but rather in that section which is roughly around the third division of the picture picture plane, horizantally and vertically. In many ways it's related to the Fibonacci numbers but without going through this tedious process now, the formula goes like this:
a+b/a= a/b= phi...a and b being two sides of the rectangle(picture plane)
...You end up with the number 1.618,which means that the ratio of the largest part of the picture plane to the smallest is 1.68 to 1. This decimal representation is also called "phi", a Greek letter. Strangely enough it is every where in nature but this is another subject.
The recoiling Mondo is talking about is represented here in a spiral fitting in the Golden ratio part.
Yes, even thought gives way to spiral history, not linear or point
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely...This formula has been observed to be behind an extremely wide range of phenomenae in nature AND the Universe not only in art or architecturte, but music and the DNA structure itself. So why not in history?
ReplyDeleteHere:
ReplyDeleteLOL!
ReplyDeleteDidn't he say during his campaign that to get change to happen he needs the people behind him doing their part?
ReplyDeleteDo you think we are doing our part?
Wow tgia, I wish I knew what you were talking about....Maybe you could start with beginner's lessons for me....
ReplyDeleteI thought you all might be interested in reading from some the following of interest articles:
ReplyDelete<h1>A tirade against Israel</h1>
<div id="EC_lead">Parliament speaker Fathi Sorour refuses to join Israeli efforts to isolate the Iranian president, reports Gamal Essam El-Din</div>
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<h1><span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/945/eg6.htm</span></span></h1>
<h1>Slipping the limelight</h1>
<div id="EC_lead">As Lebanon approaches national elections not all those recently pivotal remain so, writes Omayma Abdel-Latif from Beirut</div>
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<h1><span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/945/re08.htm</span></span></h1>
<h1>Friendly' fire</h1>
<div id="EC_lead">Who is behind the current escalation of violence mere weeks before the scheduled withdrawal of US troops from Iraq cities? Is it friend or foe, asks Nermeen Al-Mufti</div>
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<h1><span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/945/re01.htm</span></span></h1>
<h1>Hardliners on both sides</h1>
<div id="EC_lead">Iraq has recently been ravaged by bombings, but it could be even worse, writes Salah Hemeid</div>
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<h1><span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/945/re02.htm</span></span></h1>
<h1>Existential conditions</h1>
<div id="EC_lead">Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa says he is more concerned with inter-Arab fighting than with Iranian intentions towards the Arab world. Dina Ezzat listens</div>
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<h1><span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2009/945/re07.htm</span></span></h1>
<span style="font-size: small;">US hides behind Iran sanctions threat</span>
By Kaveh L Afrasiabi
<span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KE02Ak01.html</span><span style="font-size: xx-small; color: #c00000;">
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No, and by saying we needed to get behind him meant there would be no substantive "change." It is a joke of epic proportions.
ReplyDeleteThis was a theory I applied when I was a student
ReplyDeleteBush just finished the job of destruction that started many years ago
ReplyDeleteYay! Saif has seen the light. He called the Messiah "my President!" Yes, Saif, he is the chosen one. He is the one you have been looking for!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteVAA, regarding torture:
Hezbollah torture (to death):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_R._Higgins
Islamic Republic torture (to death)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahra_Kazemi
Khomeini's people tortured here too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TWA_Flight_847
The Shah dynasty tortured for centuries before this. I still havne't looked up specific links regarding this.
I am looking for a direct quote from Kofi Annan regarding Israel having ended its occupation of Lebonon in 2000. My understanding is that Syria had invaded and occupied Lebonese Shi'ba farms before 1967. However, most of the land was owned by Lebonese. These Lebanese continued to own the land deeds for the land under Syrian occupation. Israel occuped the Golan Heights and Shi'ba farms in 1967.
Now Syria seems to imply that Shi'ba farms is part of Lebanon. I think the Lebonese should ask Syria for a formal treaty specifying that Shi'ba farms is part of Lebonan in writing. Then Lebanon could formally request the land from Israel. The Lebanese can't trust Asad as far as they can throw him.
Craig reminded me: "PS-There is an eyewitness in teh Kazemi case too, in that Zahra Kazemi was healthy and unharmed when arrested, and when the police brought her to the hospital she was was badly abused and fatally injured. According to the doctor who treated her."
ReplyDeleteWhy don't you find somewhere else to take your verbal dumps Anand
ReplyDeleteYay! Saif has seen the light. He called the Messiah "my President!"
ReplyDelete----------
Hmmm...No anand...they're Mondo's words...See the quotation marks?
Sigh*
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My understanding is that Syria had invaded and occupied Lebonese Shi'ba farms before 1967.
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Could you please stop the BS anand...For the sake of our sanity!...Always remember that you're talking to Lebanese people over here not Guatemalteques or better still Americans!! Your understanding is not only wrong, it's surrealistic!
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If only you could check your "facts" before you post them that'll be more merciful of our nerves and sanity!!
ReplyDeleteNo, Syria did not "invade and occupy" Shib'aa farms neither before nor ater 1967...I'm very irritated that you force on us unbelievable horseshit as facts.
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Sorry for the jargon Marion but this is very hard to explain without a pencil and a paper. Roughly it's about composition and where to place what you want to paint, a figure a portrait, an object etc. You can of course place it in the center like many artists did and still do ut this is perceived to be rather poor , boring and totaqlly uninteresting. That's why placing an object off center is more appealing and compelling. The Golden mean uses a mathematical formula to find that very part or section which makes a picture more pleasing. So here it is.I hope this will do.
ReplyDelete.
Above is me
ReplyDeleteNow this explanation is more in a language which I can understand tgia...Thanks for taking the time to explain in simpler terms....
ReplyDeleteAnand IS unbelievable horseshit, little freaky creep
ReplyDeleteanand,
ReplyDeleteI am curious did Hezbollah admit to capturing and torturing Higgins, or is this basically what they have been accused of doing? Isn't it very possible that a number of other groups in Lebanon could have been responsible for such?
And if Hezbollah has a habit of capturing and torturing people, there must be many more examples you can give us other than this one example...
Can you explain why Hezbollah did not capture and torture many of the SLA members who had been working with the Israeli military, and running a prison in Khiam on their behalf which torured many Lebanese people, rather than turning them over to the Lebanese Army when Israel unilaterally withdrew(were forced out by Hezbollah) from South Lebanon in 2000?
SOme background info for you:
Chaos, humiliation, bloodshed:
after 22 years Israel withdraws from Lebanon
by Robert Fisk
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/chaos-humiliation-bloodshed-after-22-years-israel-withdraws-from-lebanon-716274.html
And why did Hezbollah not torture the "businessman" reservist Israeli colonal(Mossad Agent?) Elhanan Tannenbaum<span style="font-size: x-small;"> </span>who they lured to Lebanon and captured in 2000 to bargain for a future prisoner exchange in 2004?
A littlelbackground info for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elchanan_Tenenbaum
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3504345.stm
And one last question for you anand, do you consider Craig to be a objective and reliable source for information?
What Moyhabin said. The talk about Pakistan right now is really frightening -- it sounds just like the chitter-chatter about Iraq right before we decided to illegally invade it. Everyone in the media oohed and aahed over His Magnificence's "First Hundred Days" without once noting that among his first acts (within days, literally, of taking office) was to bomb the f*** out of Pakistani citizens. I'm sorry if I keep mentioning this d'you think I'm just a little pissed off about it???
ReplyDeleteOh and his recent talk to South American leaders was really a masterpiece of condescending claptrap, but I can't explain it any better than John Caruso at TinyRevolution blog (scroll down to the post titled "Historic Suspicions").
He also has a short post about "the peace process" up today:
http://www.tinyrevolution.com/mt/
h/t to Chris Floyd for the original linky.
Marion, I trust Craig to say what he thinks is correct. Note that I am not arguing that Hezbollah tortures more than Amal, Palestinians, Sunni Arabs or Christians in Lebonan. I am merely providing sourcing to VAA that Hezbollah also tortures.
ReplyDeleteThank God Obama is bombing Pakistan. Go Obama!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteTGIA, are you saying that Shi'ba farms was not occuped by Syria in 1967?
ReplyDeleteget rid of the Anand piece of shit, i think we have seen enough of his never ending bullshit, fuck torture if i ever find you bastard little scum
ReplyDeleteIt's not just Pakistan, you hideous little piece of jellyfish. He's also causing tremendous suffering among civilians in Afghanistan. Dear friends, I think it's time to ask our compassion-boy here to leave this blog ASAP.
ReplyDeleteMoy and V, do you support violent attacks against the elected GoA (Gov of Afghanistan) and the ANA and ANP which are loyal to that government?
ReplyDeleteDo you want to block all training and assistance from every foreign country to the ANA and ANP?
anand:
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<div class="js-singleCommentText">Yay! Saif has seen the light. He called the Messiah "my President!" Yes, Saif, he is the chosen one. He is the one you have been looking for!!!!!!!!!!!!! </div>
<div class="js-singleCommentText">Anand, the words "my president" were not Saif's but the caption underneath the photo from mondoweiss blog.</div>
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<div class="js-singleCommentText">Thank God Obama is bombing Pakistan. Go Obama!!!!!!!!!!!</div>
<div class="js-singleCommentText">O' looney one, Your murderous designs are obvious to everyone, as is your silliness and hypocricy.</div>
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Don't deflect. You are a hypocrite, compassion-boy...and that is the least of your defects, you moral abortion.
ReplyDeletei am going to shove those acronyms up your ass anand, you little retarded twit
ReplyDeleteWelcome to the empire, employment at 20 year low, and more bellyaching about about the banks needing 75 more billion with no strings attached, while people are being murdered all over the world. The stock market goes up...
ReplyDeleteI trust Craig to say what he thinks is correct.
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Like when he said that Arabs have a monopoly on mass murder? Or that supporting the Palestinians' right to a state is rewarding and supporting terrorism?
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TGIA, are you saying that Shi'ba farms was not occuped by Syria in 1967?
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Are you saying that Syria attacked Lebanon and the Lebanese army and occupied Shib'aa farms? How did this invasion/occupation take place?
Show me your surrealistic sources!
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How many victims would be nice to have anand?
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Great response for the idiot.
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ReplyDeleteI've had my Valium,
It took you several days to come up with a feeble wikipedia's link in response to several comments that you were certain of at the time.
A link about a woman that was allegedly tortured in Iran . A far cry from what you stated in your comment implying mass scale torture that is part of the culture in that part of the world.( Remember ?)
I can't be bothered looking up your links as if you're genuine.But there is something you should however inform yourself about."Wikepedia" and how careful one should be in using it as a reliable source ,as per this articleThe Syrian occupied the Sheeb'a Farms ?????????????????
.It seems there is lack of co-ordination between your fingers and your brain or lack of it.With comments like "Thank God Obama is bombing Pakistan" Have you any idea how many innocent people died.
You should preserve whatever dignity is left in you (not much) and stop it here.And so will I.
Your ignorance/retardness is truly beyond belief.