Friday, May 15, 2009
Seymour Hersh: Children raped on camera in front of women at Abu Ghraib.
"Debating about it, ummm ... Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."
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Yeah, heard that somewhere a while ago. maybe from him.
ReplyDeleteThe photos ought to be posted directly on this blog, not just linked to. The inhumanity of it all should be displayed openly, and evil should be looked upon directly on the eyes. But the most horrendous part of this story, however, is not supressing all this criminal evidence, but being unable to prosecute those responsible for them. More that the ongoing depression, unleashed in the US, I would say that impunity, lack of accountability, inability to come to terms with its own official sins and crimes, are the signs that mark the sharp decline of a nation supposedly founded upon the most advanced democratic principles of "justice for all".
ReplyDeleteAnother report on the same subject:
ReplyDeleteWhy the Caged Bird Sang
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So Mojo,
ReplyDeleteAre you going to post any of these reports on your blog along side of your post on Al Qaeda using the already released photos of Abu Graib as a recruitment tool?
Or are you just going to use Al Qaeda recruitment as an excuse to cover up for the U.S. occupation's crimes against your people ?
I posted this back in 2006, and it is two posts back on this site, links and all - if you want further photos and links just search my site -
ReplyDeletehttp://notinhisname.blogdrive.com/archive/cm-09_cy-2006_m-09_d-30_y-2006_o-0.html
By the way, i have been called everything in the book since I have posted this years ago, but i have all of the proofs. It is air tight, no escape and no excuses for what these bastrads did and CONTINUE TO DO
ReplyDeletethey instantly (almost) wacked the video, however i saw it on the immediate conference. Sy was definitely still shocked, it was hard for him to contain himself - he lambasted the administration, called it a cult.
ReplyDeleteAre you shocked? The Israelis have been doing this to the Palestinians for years - they were not the first to "perfect" it. Do you think things have changed with this new administration? think again, it is all cosmetic
ReplyDeleteisn't forced assrape simply how iraqi men express affection?
ReplyDeleteV, if people gave a shit about your blog they'd be there instead of on this blog.
ReplyDeleteHell even you know nobody gives a shit about your posts because you come to someone elses blog to comment. And when Molly was looking for someone else to post on this blog she sure as hell didn't ask you...
I didn't ask him because he already has a blog. And how do you how many people visit his blog, anyway?
ReplyDelete<h1>New 'prisoner abuse' photographs emerge despite US bid to block publication</h1>
ReplyDelete<h2>Graphic photographs of alleged prisoner abuse, thought to be among up to 2,000 images Barack Obama is trying to prevent from being released, emerged yesterday.</h2>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5325444/New-prisoner-abuse-photographs-emerge-despite-US-bid-to-block-publication.htmlFrom Palestinian Pundit
the answer is he does not know how many visit my blog, however, anyone who wants to can go to -
ReplyDeletehttp://www.alexa.com/siteinfo
and see it is in the top 12000 aprox (11,525)...lol
besides that, Molly does not have to reference my site, that is not her job. In fact, she could have probably remembered about Sy Hersh and his report without even seeing my previous references.
Also, it is obvious our guest is mentally vacuous, simply because he does not visit my site :)
You know kaka, that we always have this psychological difficulty with projection (attributing to others our own practices and foibles) - some should just remain silent about their projections...lol
ReplyDeleteHmm, our site is not even on there.
ReplyDelete"...thought to be among up to 2,000 images Barack Obama is trying to prevent from being released..."
ReplyDeleteThat is about right...
Fernando Botero has created many wonderful artworks on the theme of Abu Ghraib...
ReplyDeleteI'm saying the above because I saw a couple of them on your site. Thanks.
ReplyDelete.
ReplyDeleteIf stalking is all you're going to do on this blog and never contributing anything, we won''t let you go any further. Btw, what are you doing in shadyside hospital in Huston? Not feeling ok? Or are you locked for stalking?
No Molly it is there but not in the top 100,000. But we already knew that.
ReplyDeleteBy Jacob G. Hornberger
ReplyDeleteWhat are Obama and the Pentagon using as an excuse to keep these photographs secret? They’re saying that foreigners will get angry if they see photographic evidence of bad things that U.S. officials have been doing to foreigners as part of U.S. foreign policy since 9/11. Isn’t that an implicit admission that foreigners do get angry over the bad things that the U.S. government does as part of its foreign policy?
http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2009-05-14.aspIf people in the Middle East would get so angry at seeing some more photographs depicting sex abuse of prisoners at the hands of U.S. personnel that U.S. national security would be threatened, as Obama and the Pentagon are now claiming, doesn’t it stand to reason that they’d get just as angry, if not more so, over the much worse things that the U.S. government was doing in the Middle East prior to 9/11? And doesn’t that imply that the “they hate us for our freedom and values” line was bogus from the get-go?
Well DJ, if our freedoms and values involve pre-emptive wars and occupations that kill and main hundreds of thousands of people, the extradition of suspects to other countries for torture, and our own miltary taking part in torturing and raping prisoners, including women and children, amongst a number of other not so nice things, I would think that people would have the right to hate these kinds of freedoms and values...
ReplyDeleteCome on Mojo, I am still waiting for you to respond....
ReplyDeleteThe difference between you and me Mojo is that I condemn both the U.S. occupation of Iraq and AlQaeda which seems to me are feeding off from eachother at the expense of innocent Iraqis....
You Mojo, basically only condemn Al Qaeda which you seem not to mind gets confused with all of the other resistance movements in the Middle East region...Why is that Mojo?
Exactly Marion.
ReplyDeleteActually TGIA, why don't you post them here? For me, Botero's work on Abu Ghraib is after Guernica, the best political art I have ever seen.
ReplyDeleteWhy? No good dog bites the hand that feeds it.
ReplyDeleteMarion, you already answered this above -
ReplyDelete"Or are you just going to use Al Qaeda recruitment as an excuse to cover up for the U.S. occupation's crimes against your people ?"
"As I'm an avid reader, I started to read everything I could about what happened, and I was shocked because Americans are supposed to be the model of compassion... The things that happened in the Iraqi cells were serious, very serious. And especially because they flouted completely the conditions imposed by the Geneva convention concerning the treatment of prisoners of war," Botero said. He added that the written descriptions of the abuses inspired him more than photographs.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.zonaeuropa.com/20050413_2.htm
Yes Moy. I was planning to do so tonight(Sydney time).
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The worst crimes were dared by a few, willed by more and tolerated by all. - Tacitus
ReplyDeleteWhere is Mr. "Whatever it takes"?
ReplyDeleteAnd where is Mr. "Saddam was evil"?