Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Israeli universities

"The idea that Israeli universities adhere to the values of free academic institutions, where academic freedom, objectivity and meritocracy prevail is widely accepted in the West. From our experience we attest – and indeed prove beyond doubt - that this is not the case. In recent years Israeli universities have changed the criteria of acceptance to various faculties in order - as a certain president of an Israeli university put it - to prevent large number of undesirable [i.e. Arab] students from attending prestigious faculties such as Medicine and Natural Sciences. Moreover, lecturers who presented findings which are at odd with the official ideology – such as Ilan Pappe and Neve Gordon – are bullied and harassed or forced to resign."
The Angry Arab

8 comments:

  1. <span><span>I know this is an unimportant topic, but did you see the picture of the professor's parents on angryarab? His mother is beautiful and his Dad is very elegant! I love old photos like that.</span> 
     
    http://angryarab.blogspot.com/2009/11/my-parents-at-berlin-wall-1966-or-1967.html</span>

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  2. VZA, I am recopying a comment to you from a previous thread:
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    <span style=""><span>VZA, I don't know if you noticed what you wrote, however you implied that there was a war between America and the Taliban in a binary sort of way.    
       
    As you know, the ANA has taken greater casualties than more than 50 countries combined (that have contributed to the international troops.) The ANP has taken 3 times the casualties as the ANA.    
       
    Until Obama's election, the large majority of international casualties were from countries other than the US. {Since the large majority of the UN sanctioned international troops were not American.}    
       
    It is really insulting to the Afghans, the ANA, ANP, and more than 50 other countries to not mention them.    
       
    "<span>I believed and still do that it's an unwinnable war!!<span>" TGIA, I know many soldiers. Some of them have had interactions with the Afghan National Army and Afghan National Police. Most soldiers who have interacted with the ANA and ANP, do not agree with your statement.</span></span>  
       
    Why do you think that the Afghan National Army cannot defeat the Taliban?  You can take a few months to think about this if you prefer.  
       
    TGIA, as you know the UNSC has unanimously requested countries to contribute to the international troops in Afghanistan. More than 50 countries have done so. You obviously disagree with the UN and the international community. Why?    
       
    Do you oppose all international UN forces in all countries as a matter of principle? Is this because you believe in nonviolence?  Do you consider all UN troop missions by definition to be wars of aggression?</span>  
     
    Not that this position is illegitimate. Many on the left agree with it. Many on the left consider the UN deeply immoral and want it dissolved immediately.</span>

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  3. <span><span><span>VZA, I don't know if you noticed what you wrote, however you implied that there was a war between America and the Taliban in a binary sort of way.      
         
    As you know, the ANA has taken greater casualties than more than 50 countries combined (that have contributed to the international troops.) The ANP has taken 3 times the casualties as the ANA.      
         
    Until Obama's election, the large majority of international casualties were from countries other than the US. {Since the large majority of the UN sanctioned international troops were not American.}      
         
    It is really insulting to the Afghans, the ANA, ANP, and more than 50 other countries to not mention them. </span></span></span>


    I am not discountng the contributions of the other countries, anan. I was merely addressing the issue from the American perspective. You also know quite well that if the U.S. pulled out it would not matter how many others there were....They would not, at this point, be able to secure Afghanistan from the Taliban.

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  4. VZA, not completely true. If the ANSF got $120 billion in international funding over 20 years, they would eventually defeat the Taliban, although it would probably take over 10 years and perhaps hundreds of thousands of dead. This is provided the Taliban don't overrun Pakistan in the meantime.

    Currently, perhaps 200 civilians a month are dying (about 2/3rds to 3/4s by the Taliban.) If the US pulled out, that would immediately rise to perhaps 4,000 a month. The ANSF would pull out of the South and parts of the East. Many of the new schools, universities, health clinics and hospitals in the South and East would be destroyed.

    The ANSF would fight like heck in the rest of the country. Eventually, they would win; but at the cost of hundreds of thousands of dead Afghans.

    Remember that the ANA and ANP turn away the vast majority of those who want to join because of a lack of funding. There is intense anti Taliban anger among Afghans.

    Unfortunately, the Taliban might have 200,000 Pakistanis in their army. Not to even mention the large number of Chechans, Uighars, Uzbeks, Sunni Arabs, other foreign fighters, and Southern Afghan Pashtuns. The Taliban greatly outnumber the Afghan National Army. Remember that the Taliban also pays their soldiers much more than the Afghan National Army does.

    The real fear VZA, is that the Taliban might overrun Pakistan and their nuclear arsenal. This is possible if so many of them were not tied down fighting ANSF and ISAF.

    VZA, the Afghans will fight the Taliban tooth and nail in Kabul, the North, West, and even Khost (which borders Pakistan.) But if the Taliban defeat the Pakistani Army and capture nuclear weapons, then I don't see how the Afghans can resist them.

    There are people in the Obama Administration that want to focus on ANSF capacity building, and training/equipping/funding the Pakistani security forces; and leave it at that. This is a legitimate option. However, a very large number of Afghans and Pakistanis would die if this option were chosen.

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  5. Can someone help me with this spec in my eye,  I know it is off subject but...

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  6. Not only is it getting rougher for students and dissenting teachers,  but the universities are also part of the oppressive processes against the Palestinians.  they help to put the words in the mouths of the oppressors,  they re-write the history to fit their own agenda,  and they are there to be part of the dumbing down process of both the palestinians and the Israelis.  As the country moves further into fascism,  they will probably have book burnings.

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  7. vza, I had the same thought about that picture -- loved it. Interestingly, the Irate One said it's his only photo of his folks!

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