Friday, July 10, 2009

Zelaya's rare broadcast!

In Rare U.S. Broadcast, Ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya Discusses Coup, Costa Rica Talks, U.S. Role
"Talks between the ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya and the leaders of last week’s military coup begin today in Costa Rica. Shortly before leaving Washington DC for Costa Rica, Zelaya sat down with us for a rare U.S. television interview. He discusses how military coup forces forced him out, the upcoming talks in Costa Rica, his domestic policies in Honduras, the role of the United States and more."
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33 comments:

  1. When Zelaya was unceremoniously tossed out of his country in his pajamas and Hugo Chavez railed against the coup, I really thought it was because of a sincere desire on Chavez' part to oppose a military coup against a democratically elected president. He screamed about empire and intervention and all the usual stuff.  It truly was a sight to see! Now I find out HE attempted his very own coup againist a democratically elected leader. I am shocked! Shocked, I say!

    Venezuela 1992: Coup attempt led by Hugo Chavez against President Carlos Andres Perez (elected 1989) fails.

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  2. Carlos Andres Perez should have not only been overthrown but summarily shot.  For you vza no dictator should be overthrown, not Perez, not Batista, not Pinochet, not Somoza - only those who wish to free the people from oppression are not acceptable.  You only interest that ebbs and flows in these matters is what your masters tell you, and you are no champion of any innocent people - you are worthless.

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  3. Defending dogs that are neoliberal puppets, what a crock...

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  4. v said: "Carlos Andres Perez should have not only been overthrown but summarily shot."

    But...but...but...what about his human rights? Oh right, human rights are only for your guys, right?

    Now, I really, really understand, mr. anarachist. You aren't against all coups, just coups that overthrow your guys.
    Yeah, Castro freed them from Batista's kind of oppression and brought in his own. But they have free health care.  Few freedoms, but great health care.

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  5. Defending thugs that are psuedo-liberators. What a crock...

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  6.  Perez was a louse as a leader, but he was removed from office by the Supreme Court for the misappropriation of funds.  The laws of Venezuela were used to get rid of him.

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  7. v said: "you are worthless."

    Now, now. I think that just might be considered petty, mean spirited, taunting, etc. etc.  Not allowed on this blog, v. Might get you banned!
    ;)

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  8. Only after the people being straightjacketed by neoliberal slave "loans," and the consequent individuals that wanted Perez's share prevailed. When are you going to wake up, probably never - you will go to your grave having supported bullshit, where they can write on your tombstone "she never found an oppressive policy she did not support."

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  9. Blah blah blah, broken record syndrome...lol Hey, there was nothing mean spirited about what I wrote, just the painful facts.

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  10. I suggest you watch this hegemony hag, and if you have watched it then it is not sinking in, watch it again -

    http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/9/in_rare_us_broadcast_ousted_honduran

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  11. What a joke! And yours will say: He was an apologist for the world's most brutal regimes EXCEPT for those aligned with the U.S."

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  12. What a joke! And yours will say: "He was an apologist for the world's most brutal regimes EXCEPT for those aligned with the U.S."

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  13. Calling a person worthless is not mean spirited?
    Oh my.

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  14. This is all you are capable of, verbally gaging...LOL

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  15. Actually, the Zelaya ouster may have "voided" another term for a neighboring aspirant.

    Time will tell...

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  16. Outside of that vza, what have these alliances with the US and foreign oligarchies that have murdered their own people done for you? What have you gained? ZERO. However, you are so brainwashed that whenever they say US interests, you think they are talking about you! They are not talking about you, what you will receive is where this country will fall, you will get the bill, you will get the heartache, you will watch your institutions b destroyed, and eventually end up in economic pauperism - while a few walk away enriched. Making you a class A imbecile for the record.

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  17. This is hysterical! Chavez, who constantly sputters abut U.S. interference in Latin America is upset because we are not interferring enough! Keep talking Hugo! Keep talking!

    "Chavez said Micheletti should have been arrested in Costa Rica and that the United States should be putting more pressure on Honduras to return Zelaya to power.
    "Why haven't they recalled their ambassador to Honduras? Why haven't they supported sanctions? Economic sanctions? Political sanctions? There have been timid measures."
    Chavez said he spoke to the top U.S. diplomat for the Americas, Thomas Shannon, by telephone for a half hour on Thursday to express his opinion on the matter.
    "They have a military base. Why don't they start some movements there at the military base?" Chavez said. "Or withdraw all their troops? ... Something. Do something. Obama, do something."

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jAkMGKIUDg_ngUiZboxQbYj5_DPwD99BV5983

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  18. This is hysterical! Chavez, who constantly sputters abut U.S. interference in Latin America, is upset because we are not interferring enough! Keep talking Hugo! Keep talking! 
     
    "Chavez said Micheletti should have been arrested in Costa Rica and that the United States should be putting more pressure on Honduras to return Zelaya to power. 
    "Why haven't they recalled their ambassador to Honduras? Why haven't they supported sanctions? Economic sanctions? Political sanctions? There have been timid measures." 
    Chavez said he spoke to the top U.S. diplomat for the Americas, Thomas Shannon, by telephone for a half hour on Thursday to express his opinion on the matter. 
    "They have a military base. Why don't they start some movements there at the military base?" Chavez said. "Or withdraw all their troops? ... Something. Do something. Obama, do something." 
     
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jAkMGKIUDg_ngUiZboxQbYj5_DPwD99BV5983

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  19. Vza, you suffer from many ailments don't you? lol  There are two things that Chavez is doing here - making it abundantly clear that what the Obama administration says, and what it does, are two different things. So, he is removing all excuses that the Obama administration went to great to do anything of consequence, even with great encouragement.  He is, at least by apperance, taking them at their word. This does a second thing, it proves by all accounts that there is no real intent on the part of the administration to do a damn thing - except stall, and drag its feet to take a toll of attrition on Zelaya -


    COUP IN HONDURAS: THE RETURN OF THE GORILLAS OR THE TACTICS OF ATTRITION?

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  20. The Obama adminsitration did not claim it was going to DO anything but facilitate talks. Period. You can continue to make excuses, but it does not wash. Chavez is urging U. S. intervention. In short, Chavez is a big phony.

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  21. You are not making any sense vza, that is ok, it is business as usual..LOL

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  22. This article shows why, when we take into consideration the direction that the Brazilian economy should take today in relation to its economic prospects for the future, it becomes crystal clear that the best group for Brazil to integrate its economy with is the Asian group under the leadership of China.

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  23. HAVANA, Cuba (Reuters) -- Brazil said on Thursday it would give Cuba up to $300 million in credits to start rebuilding the island's port of Mariel, ... Brazilian Industry and Trade Minister Miguel Jorge said $110 million had been approved by his government and the rest would likely be, as Brazil strengthens its ties with communist-led Cuba. (...)Brazilian officials said Cuba expects the entire port project, which will be built in several phases, to cost up to $2 billion. (...) Cuba wants Mariel to serve as logistics center for its still-nascent offshore oil industry and to be equipped to handle shipments from around the world, including the United States, just 90 miles (145 km) to the north of Cuba. (...) Jorge, who was on the second day of a two-day visit to Cuba, said Brazil's state-owned oil giant Petrobras PBR.SA, which last October was awarded a bloc for oil exploration in Cuban waters, would open an office in Havana on Tuesday.

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  24. Where is Moyhabin?

    I have a question for him:  Are you familiar with Victor Alba's 1968 book (yes it is very dated) entitled Nationalists Without Nations?

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  25. vza,
    Are you familiar with the figure of Romulo Betancourt?

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  26. I remember his name and a little bit about him so I just read your wiki link to brush up on him.  Why do you ask?

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  27. I remembered his name and a little bit about him, so I just read your wiki link to brush up on the basics.  Why do you ask? 

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  28. Well, it's always good to know a bit of Venezuelan history.  Aside from the fact that he is a key figure in the country's political history, I just thought you might be interested in his trajectory.

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  29. A very interesting trajectory, indeed. First came to power as a result of a coup and then later in life, the Betancourt Doctrine. All in all he appears to have accomplished a great deal of good. I see from the article that Castro and his guys were playing a few games there, too. I am sure Castro was merely trying to share his wonderful ideas about civil liberites and health care with the Venezuelans.
    ;) Chavez is no Betancourt.

    Really off topic, but I would be interested to know, when you get a chance, what you think of the steps President Obama has taken with regard to the economy? Right track? Wrong track? Mixed?

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  30. With regard to Betancourt, I just think his legacy needs to be re-evaluated.  His legacy is toxic to the left, but I don't think it should end there.  Time passage helps one gain perspective (plus history happens in the meantime).  Anyway.... about the economic policies of Obama:

    If the US wants to maintain a strong dollar and preserve the advantages of having it continue to be the global reserve currency, it needs to become more frugal - yes, meaning get that deficit under control.  But also eliminate the conditions that give rise to those destabilizing bubbles.  The Republicans will pin the deficit tail on Obama's keynesianism, but I think they will have to reform themselves as well since they aren't free from blame.  As for the financial and other asset bubbles, it almost seems like a question of who will place the bell around the tiger.  The country needs real growth that isn't linked to some huge ponzi scheme.  At the moment, there doesn't seem to be a real effort to regulate markets (until perhaps it is too late).  On the other hand, I see a lot of faith in America's ability to preserve it's formost position in the world but faith doesn't get you far in the long run.  The overall consensus is that the dollar will lose its status as global reserve currency this century (some say sooner; some say later).  To make it later, we need (to summarize) to be frugal and produce in concrete, not in bubbles. 

    I hope that helps.  My views wouldn't be helpful because, as you know, I am tarnished with my own prejudices against militarism.  From my point of view anything that limits the militarism of the USA overseas is positive.  Since the US apparently doesn't want to limit its military extension voluntarily, then any economic weakening that forces it to curb it is military largesse is (in my view) a net positive for the world.  Some may call that the "hate America" point of view, but I beg to differ.

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  31. Some may call that the "hate America" point of view, but I beg to differ.
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     I see, more of a, "This is for the U. S.'s  and the world's good, point of view." ?

     Thank you for your time. You've been very helpful. I am going to look into Betancourt a bit more. Interesting life. Apparently, Reagan thought very highly of him. I'd like to read more about his relationship with the United States.
    Thanks.

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