Saturday, November 21, 2009

Robert Fisk : Obama will be worse than Bush

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15 comments:

  1. vzaNovember 21, 2009 at 6:31 PM

    So what is Joya's solution for Afghanistan after international soldiers leave? That's a good question!
    In fact, at the presentation she was asked what would prevent the Taliban from taking over after a NATO/UN withdrawal. Instead of answering the question, she proceeded into a long speech about how terrible the situation is right now. So I put up my hand and demanded she answer the question. This led to a long, angry exchange between the two of us that lasted about 10 minutes, at which point I was told to shut up by the "antiwar" organizers of the event.






    http://canada-afghanistan.blogspot.com/2009/11/brave-women.html

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  2. vzaNovember 21, 2009 at 6:33 PM

    But this reaction has not translated into an Afghan demand for the withdrawal of foreign military forces. Almost 70 percent of those polled say the Afghan National Army and police continue to need the support of foreign troops and cannot operate by themselves. For now, it appears the Afghans continue to see U.S. and NATO forces as an ally and partner, not an occupier.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/opinion/13iht-edinderfurth.html?_r=1

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  3. cruelnastyandabsurdNovember 21, 2009 at 7:52 PM

    Doesn't Fisk remind you of another Brit, Winston Churchill ?
     " We will surrender to them on the beaches,
       We will surrender to them in the alleyways,and hedgerows..."

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  4. r.s.November 21, 2009 at 9:47 PM

    Real men drink Bud and fight wars for 100 years.

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  5. vNovember 21, 2009 at 11:19 PM

    Fisk does not give a damn what the peanut gallery says,  they nor their leaders know what they are talking about.  It is just going to get worse,  he is correct.

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  6. MollyNovember 22, 2009 at 11:59 AM

    <span style="color: #808080;">VZA, I think you sent Anand to that website.  Tsk, tsk. </span>

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  7. vzaNovember 22, 2009 at 12:24 PM

    :-D I just read the comments and anand is there!

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  8. thankgodimatheistNovember 22, 2009 at 1:55 PM

    Poor things...I wonder if they already realised what hit them...

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  9. VAANovember 22, 2009 at 3:02 PM

    <span style="">Western forces are now in kazastan tatgikistan Afghanistan Iraq turkey  Egypt Jordan Algeria Bahrain Yemen Kuwait Katar Oman 22 times western forces in the moslem world more than the crusaders had in the twelfth century islam </span>
    <span style="">Those rabid Moslems 
    <span><span>R.Fisk interview</span></span></span>

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  10. thankgodimatheistNovember 22, 2009 at 5:33 PM

    <span><span><span><span>A tsunami of acronyms..Sky-high tidal waves of country names and an endless torrent of polls, stats and other senseless BS. Here:     
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    GIRoA revenue = $600 million/year     
    GIRoA steady state long term expenditures = more than $6,000 million/year     
    More than 90% of all Afghan gov't related spending is financed for international grants.</span>    
       
    <span></span>" I believe that the US, Canada and Europe cut off aid to Afghanistan and Pakistan in 1989,  then she is right to blame America, Canada, Europe (probably a dozen countries), Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Libya, Syria, UAE, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Yemen, China, Australia, Japan, Iran, and South Korea, Pakistan,</span></span>
    <span><span></span></span>What nefarious intentions can the "West" (whatever that means), Australia, Russia, China, India, the Stans, Japan, South Korea, or any other country possibly have in Afghanistan

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  11. vzaNovember 22, 2009 at 6:06 PM

    <span>Well, to be fair....perhaps it is senseless to us, but anand seems interested in all of that. He is a policy wonk with regard to Afghanistan.</span>

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  12. thankgodimatheistNovember 22, 2009 at 7:40 PM

    Maybe vza. Maybe.. But its never "a propos". It's like hitting a fly with a hammer.

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  13. vzaNovember 22, 2009 at 7:48 PM

    Unbridled enthusiasm?

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  14. vzaNovember 22, 2009 at 7:50 PM

    Off topic, but doesn't this sound wonderful?

    Donatello was the first genius of the Renaissance, but his raw, expressive work also challenges all our assumptions about the period. He is justly the star of the V&A's triumphant new galleries'
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/nov/21/donatello-vanda-medieval-renaissance-galleries

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  15. vzaNovember 22, 2009 at 7:54 PM

    I'd prefer "People and Art" because, in the end, what's amazing about all these objects is not that people spent money on stuff. They always do that. The Medici and the Rucellai and the Strozzi in 15th-century Florence could have bought trash. But in fact they sponsored a cultural revolution, a renewal of imagination, an explosion of experiment. That is why it's only right that Donatello gets a special place in these galleries. He reminds us that the Renaissance wasn't just about marriage chests; it was about genius.

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