"The Education system in Iraq, prior to 1991, was one of the best in the region; with over 100% Gross Enrolment Rate for primary schooling and high levels of literacy, both of men and women. The Higher Education, especially the scientific and technological institutions, were of an international standard, staffed by high quality personnel". (UNESCO Fact Sheet, March 28, 2003)[1].
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What happened in 1991?
ReplyDeleteMojo, Iraq had an amazing education system in th 1970s, the envy of the middle east. Iraq's education system fall apart in the 1980s because of the Iran/Iraq war.
ReplyDeleteFor example, in 2002, Saddam only spent $15 million on the entire education budget. Since 2003, there has been a dramatic improvement in the education system and education budget; but Iraq has a long way to go to get back to the 1970s education system.
It is sad, because Iraq has a generation of Iraqis that are less educated than their parents.
The culprit is the Lucifer channeler; the endless bucket of slime, the scum of the planet; Saddam Hussein.
What do you think happened Iraqi "expert?" The Gulf War blowhard, and than the embargo's whereupon there were sharp decreases - especially among women. Lets just look at women. "Previous to this in the 1970's and 80's there was rapid economic growth - The Iraqi constitution was changed to ensure equal rights for both men and women. Unlike in many neighboring Arab countries, Iraqi women enjoyed many more rights such as equal pay, six months of fully paid maternity leave and an additional six months of half pay and up to five years of unpaid maternity leave, while retaining their work place for them if they desired to return. Many workplaces had subsidized day care for their children. Women in Iraq became among the most educated and professional in the entire region, and working outside the home became the norm for them. Women could find and retain jobs, obtain higher education, and receive extensive medical coverage. In 1980 women could vote and run for election. Iraqi women could also serve in the army if they so wished."
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Why don't you shut shut up Anan, you are a complete disgrace - what an idiot.
ReplyDeleteNow we can be subjected to more of the tripe coming from you and the Iraqi jerkweed
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What do you mean? The first Iraq war or the Gulf war of course!
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<span></span><span>What do you mean? The first Iraq war or the Gulf war of course!</span>
"<span>The Gulf War blowhard, and than the embargo's whereupon there were sharp decreases - especially among women. " </span>
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Sanctions were enforced immediately after Saddam foolishly invaded Kuwait, v. My mother's aunt died as a result of those sanctions:
<span>"My mother's aunt, a sweet 70-something-year old woman who was blind and had asthma, lived with my aunt (my mom's sister) for many years in Baghdad. We called her 'Amma' which means 'aunt' in Arabic, and we loved her - my cousins who lived with her regarded her as a second mother. Their household was one of our favorites to stay with every summer we visited Iraq in the 70s. Immediately after Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, the UN imposed economic sanctions against Iraq, and no 'dual use' medicines were allowed to be sold to Iraq. I don't know how asthma medicine can be converted to a weapon, but it was on the long list of medicines that were considered to be 'dual use' and were therefore prohibited by the sanctions. By the time the coalition started bombing Iraq, Amma had run out of her asthma medicine, and in late January, 1991, she died as a result. One of my cousins, who eventually moved to the US, told me that during the intense bombing he and one of his brothers had to take Amma's body to Nejef and bury her there. He told me that it was the saddest experience of his life."</span>
Even in the 80s Iraqis received a decent education. But yes, it was difficult due to the war. I remember many nights between September 1980 and May 1982 trying to study by candlelight, during an air raid. We were luckier than most Iraqis to have fled in 82. I wonder if venereal has ever tried to study by candlelight. I wonder if he knows what an air raid is, or what it feels like.
ReplyDeleteI wonder for how long venereal and his cohorts would have forced Iraqis to live under Saddam, the mass murderer of Iraqis, the ruiner of Iraq. 3 decades of murderous dictatorship was not long enough for venereal and our Arab "brothers", it seems.
I am angry with America for not liberating Iraq in 1991.
Shukren. Please elaborate and explain how it is that Saddam could have built so many palaces after the ruinous war of 1991.
ReplyDeleteDoes it suck to read about Saddam building palaces while ordinary Iraqis starved?
ReplyDelete<span>Please elaborate and explain how it is that Saddam could have built so many palaces after the ruinous war of 1991. </span>
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It wasn't the purpose of the post to glorify Saddam or to deny he was a dictator. It's a matter of fact post.
I remember in the 80s I was collaboting with Iraqi friends, poets and artists (all vehemently anti Saddamist) on an a literary magazine. I used to provide art and poetry and help out with the design and graphics. I was more or less aware of what was going on..But the truth of the matter is that at that time Paris was flooded with Iraqi students, who were paid by the regime to study. Petrol money was used for educational purposes AND building palaces..When did I EVER deny thois fact?
<span><span>Please elaborate and explain how it is that Saddam could have built so many palaces after the ruinous war of 1991. </span>
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It wasn't the purpose of the post to glorify Saddam or to deny he was a dictator. It's a matter of fact post.
I remember in the 80s I was collaboting with Iraqi friends, poets and artists (all vehemently anti Saddamist) on an a literary magazine. I used to provide art and poetry and help out with the design and graphics. I was more or less aware of what was going on..But the truth of the matter is that at that time Paris was flooded with Iraqi students, who were paid by the regime to study. Petrol money was used for educational purposes AND building palaces..When did I EVER deny this fact?</span>
"<span>It's a matter of fact post. " </span>
ReplyDeleteNot really. It's true that Iraq's educational system was in much better shape before 1991. But why? The implication, and probably most Arabs' (and v's) understanding, is that it is America's fault. Too often I see they do not consider the destructive actions of Saddam, and that Iraq's decline began in 1980. Too many people forget (or don't even know) that Saddam built palaces throughout the 1990s while ordinary Iraqis struggled to survive. I did not say you have ever denied it. I just wanted to add to your post and I wanted to compel you to elaborate and explain why Iraq's educational system deteriorated after 1991. If the regime used oil money for educational purposes as well, why was the educational system so bad after 1991?
"Too many people forget (or don't even know) that Saddam built palaces throughout the 1990s while ordinary Iraqis struggled to survive."
ReplyDeleteGeorge Bush Jr's personal wealth, which was similarly acquired from oil, is about 30 million dollars. Yet few claim that he, or Bill Gates who is worth 60 billion, are solely responsible for the hundreds of thousands starving in America. To claim that solely because Saddam had enormous wealth he is automatically responsible for the widespread death and disease that plagued Iraq is the ultimate act of hypocrisy.
How appropriate for the r.s. (really stupid) Arab to miss the point completely. LOL
ReplyDeleteWell maybe you didn't miss the point completely. Part of your stupidity is rooted in denial, it seems.
ReplyDeleteYou are an idiot Mojo mange, and a shill for imperialism
ReplyDeleteAnd your stupidity is rooted Iraqi imbecile in a congenital defect
ReplyDeleteA congenital defect. hmmm...
ReplyDeleteImperialists did not imprison and kill my relatives. Arab nationalists and Wahhabi idiots did.
ReplyDelete<p><span>“Unpopular as it may be to say now, Iraq prospered under Saddam’s leadership. Unlike the rulers of Saudi Arabia, Saddam channelled the oil wealth into the nation’s future, developing new industries and building fine educational institutions that attracted students from all over the Arab world. He gave Iraq a highway system as good as anything in North America. When I first saw Baghdad in the early 1980’s, it was an opulent and ostentatiously prosperous city, and fastidiously clean. It is no exaggeration to say that Saddam made Iraq into a showcase for the Arab world.” (Paul William Roberts, A War Against Truth, Vancouver 2004)</span>
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<p><span>“Unpopular as it may be to say now, Iraq prospered under Saddam’s leadership. Unlike the rulers of Saudi Arabia, Saddam channelled the oil wealth into the nation’s future, developing new industries and building fine educational institutions that attracted students from all over the Arab world. He gave Iraq a highway system as good as anything in North America. When I first saw Baghdad in the early 1980’s, it was an opulent and ostentatiously prosperous city, and fastidiously clean. It is no exaggeration to say that Saddam made Iraq into a showcase for the Arab world.” (Paul William Roberts, A War Against Truth, Vancouver 2004)</span>
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<p><span>“Unpopular as it may be to say now, Iraq prospered under Saddam’s leadership. Unlike the rulers of Saudi Arabia, Saddam channelled the oil wealth into the nation’s future, developing new industries and building fine educational institutions that attracted students from all over the Arab world. He gave Iraq a highway system as good as anything in North America. When I first saw Baghdad in the early 1980’s, it was an opulent and ostentatiously prosperous city, and fastidiously clean. It is no exaggeration to say that Saddam made Iraq into a showcase for the Arab world.” (Paul William Roberts, A War Against Truth, Vancouver 2004)</span></p>
ReplyDeleter.s. how could you quote some piece of garbage like that in 2010?
ReplyDeleteI mean really?
Are you okay?
Iraq with its oil and ng wealth should have been richer than Kuwait, UAE, Qatar and Bahrain. The fact that it isn't is the fault of the evil Saddam Hussein. He was so evil; it is hard to imagine that he could have been human.
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ReplyDeleteNot really. Iraq declined economically under Saddam's leadership: http://bp0.blogger.com/_yQ3RrVdIOKc/R79hjaIKWJI/AAAAAAAAAok/Jc4NQD7PzbU/s1600-h/Iraqi+real+GDP+index+69-07.jpg
Iraq before Saddam's leadership:
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Iraq did just fine before Saddam:
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Iraq after Saddam's leadership:
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The chart in no way proves that.
ReplyDeleteIn fact, that same chart could be used for any country dependent on oil for GDP growth.
ReplyDeleteHere is Venezuela for example
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Let that be a lesson to you, Iraqi Bozo. Your cheap propaganda tricks don't work here.
ReplyDeleteLOL
ReplyDeletelooks like Venezuela's total GDP was steady compared to Iraq's.
ReplyDeleteLOL, r.s. is REALLY STUPID
ReplyDeleteAre all Arabs this stupid? How sad.
Sad but not surprising.
ReplyDelete"<span>George Bush Jr's personal wealth, which was similarly acquired from oil, is about 30 million dollars. Yet few claim that he, or Bill Gates who is worth 60 billion, are solely responsible for the hundreds of thousands starving in America. To claim that solely because Saddam had enormous wealth he is automatically responsible for the widespread death and disease that plagued Iraq is the ultimate act of hypocrisy.</span>"
ReplyDeleteI am trying to determine if R.S. is mentally ill or an anti Iraqi racist. This is one of the dumbest statements I have ever seen.
Gates made his money by founding Microsoft. Microsoft invented the DOS operating system (OS) that IBM selected to run on their machines. MSFT innovated on DOS, creating MSDOS, Windows, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, etc. Microsoft also created OS for other platforms such as cell phones.
MSFT created MS Office and other applications that generated astronomical revenue.
How can anyone with a brain compare this to what Saddam created? What business did Saddam create? What goods and services did Saddam invent? How did Saddam facilitate global technological innovation and higher global living standards (the way Gates and Microsoft did.)?
Saddam created no business. He created nothing but genocide and mass murder. Saddam in 1968 with his gang of thugs mass murdered a bunch of Iraqis and assumed power over one of the richest countries (measured per capita) in recorded human history. Iraq should have been wealthier than KSA, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman and UAE. The reason Iraq did not surpass all of them in economic prosperity is because Saddam was a genocidal maniac who spent Iraq's money on death and palaces.
Almost every Iraqi hated Saddam with a passion and intensity that is almost impossible for any non Iraqi to imagine.
When in 1975, the Iraqis rose to fight for their freedom, Saddam crushed them. Saddam also crushed the 1980 popular uprising against Saddam's demonic oppression.
In the 1980-2003 civil war--Saddam's own defense lawyers called it a civil war rather then genocide in 2004-2006--over a million Iraqis were killed. Many of them in the Iran Iraq war; many in the Persian Gulf war, many in the Iraqi civil war.
Iraq was destroyed in this great civil war.
BTW, GW Bush made his money as an entrepreneur who ran a sports team.
You must be blind; Venezuela's economy starts to decline from 1979, was it "Saddam taking over"!
ReplyDeleteOil prices fell in the early 80s, yes, and the Venezuelan economy did contract in the 80s. But the Venezuelan govt did not plunge the country into massive debt and endless war.
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<p>Iraq has much more oil than Venezuela, and Iraqi oil is much easier (less costly) to pump out of the ground, and therefore profits would still have been high for the Iraqi govt despite low oil prices.
</p><p>The Iraqi economy declined in the 80s and 90s primarily because of Saddam's destructive WARS and tyranny. Had there been no wars, the Iraqi economy would have been strong throughout the 80s and 90s just like the economies of Kuwait, KSA, and Qatar were.
</p><p>I guess I should not expect a really stupid Arab to understand how Saddam's destructive actions affected the Iraqi economy.
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