Tuesday, August 4, 2009

A new start for Fatah?


Once-dominant in Palestinian politics, Fatah is now struggling to regroup in a long-delayed conference to be held inside the Palestinian territories. Can the movement make a new start?
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16 comments:

  1. vzaAugust 4, 2009 at 11:41 AM

    Very interesting. It is great to watch an interview where the guests are allowed to speak without constant interruptions by the clueless anchor.
    I must confess, I have a crush on Dr. Barghouti! :-[

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  2. vzaAugust 4, 2009 at 11:42 AM

    Very interesting. It is great to watch an interview where the guests are allowed to speak without constant interruptions by the clueless anchor. 
    I must confess, I have a crush on Dr. Barghouti! :-[

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  3. anandAugust 4, 2009 at 12:00 PM

    I like Dr. Barghouti too. But I don't have a crush on him. ;)

    I keep mentioning how important Palestine's huge dependence on foreign grants is (as this discussion emphasizes.) Palestine recieves several times as much in foreign grants as it collects in tax revenue; as a result Palestinians have to do what the aid givers want.

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  4. vAugust 4, 2009 at 12:42 PM

    Whose fault is it that they are low on tax revenue anand? Now give a straight answer.

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  5. vAugust 4, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    Whose fault is it that they are low on tax revenue anand? Now give a straight answer.

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  6. vAugust 4, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    there is no way for fatah to shake the image of an agent for Israel

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  7. anandAugust 4, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    The depressed economy. Israeli actions contribute to the depressed economy, but is not the only cause of the depressed economy. {Many Arab states suffer from depressed economies and therefore sluggish tax revenues.}

    Palestinians and the international community need to work together to facilitate private sector business development, since this leads to more long run tax revenue. It is much better to facilitate people fishing than to give them fish.

    Palestinians need to simultaneously pursue economic development "AND" their noble quest for freedom. In isn't either or. In fact, economic development gives Palestine more long run leverage on Israel and the international community that they can use to achieve their freedom.

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  8. VAAAugust 4, 2009 at 5:13 PM

    I agree . Personally I'm convinced the beginning of the end started with Oslo accord , huge compromises had to made by Fatah just to sustain  itself . As for anand's fantasy " Economic development  or Tax revenue " I would've laughed it off if it wasn't so sad.

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  9. thankgodimatheistAugust 4, 2009 at 5:19 PM

    Oh man, you really can't be true can you? The Palestinians are as much to blame as the Israelis for the flailing economy??!!! Are you aware that the subjugation of the Palestinians implies the destruction of their economical infrastructure...You're really out of bounds with any reality...I can only shake my head..
    Not to mention that comment you made where you claimed that the US forces were INVITED into Iraq by the Iraqi government, they did not INVADE Iraq!!! What on earth has happened to you anand?? What do you read? Where on earth you get your infos from? I don't think that even Fox TV would propagate such surrealistic and outlandish claims!

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  10. VAAAugust 4, 2009 at 5:34 PM

    <span style="">I agree . Personally I'm convinced the beginning of the end started with Oslo accord , huge compromises were made by Fatah . As for anand's fantasy " Economic development  or Tax revenue " I would've laughed it off if it wasn't so sad.</span>

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  11. vAugust 4, 2009 at 6:45 PM

    Anand deserves a reward for his answer -note Anand, this is done by Media Fusion in India :)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySFmgEBC-tg

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  12. thankgodimatheistAugust 4, 2009 at 7:16 PM

    Palestinians need to simultaneously pursue economic development "AND" their noble quest for freedom.
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    And of course it doesn't matter that they're disallowed, forbidden, hindered and restricted in their movement to pursue economic freedom...They still need to do it..Maybe you should tell them how...

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  13. anandAugust 4, 2009 at 7:34 PM

    TGIA, the UNSC unanimously authorized the occupation of Iraq in April, 2003. The UNSC unanimously asked nations to contributed to a multinational force to temporarily assist with Iraqi security in July, 2003. In early April, 2004, the UN sent Brahimi to select an interum sovereign Iraqi government, which he selected two months later. The UNSC in June, 2004, unanimously endorsed Brahimi's government as the fully sovereign legitimate government of Iraq, and stated that the multinational forces required the Iraqi government invitation to stay in Iraq following the transfer of sovereignty in June 2004.

    The Iraqi government requested that the MNF-I stay in Iraq in June 2004. Every year, the UNSC council resolution required the Iraqi government to renew their request for the MNF-I to stay in Iraq.

    Therefore Iraq was occupied under UNSC resolution authorization between April 2003 and June 2004.

    After June 2004, Iraq was sovereign under international law. The MNF-I was in Iraq at the request of the Iraqi government and at the request of the UNSC council (although the UNSC council required the Iraqi government to restate their invitation to the MNF-I to stay in Iraq annually.)

    TGIA, this is a legal question, not a moral question. Legally the MNF-I have been in Iraq since June, 2004, at the request of the GoI.

    One of the main reasons the GoI asked the MNF-I to stay in Iraq was to train and equip the IA and IP (Iraqi Police.) This understandably was one of the top priorities of the GoI.

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  14. anandAugust 4, 2009 at 7:36 PM

    It will be very challenging because Israeli actions disrupt Palestinian private sector activity. Why don't some of you continue this discusion at MJT. Many there don't beleive that Israeli policies are damaging the Palestinian economy.

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  15. vAugust 4, 2009 at 8:06 PM

    Well, now we know wht helps to stoke your stupidity anand...lol (MJT site)

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  16. vAugust 4, 2009 at 8:07 PM

    Well, now we know what helps to stoke your stupidity anand...lol (MJT site)

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