Thursday, June 11, 2009

The tragedy of the Yemeni Jews

The last Jews of Yemen are leaving. They are packing their bags and moving to Israel or the US. A community dating back to Biblical times is on the brink of extinction.

Sixty years ago one million Jews lived in Arab countries, but violence and state-sanctioned discrimination scapegoating them as Zionist spies have forced out all but 4,000 – who remain mainly in Yemen, Morocco and Tunisia.
(the Guardian) Thanks Molly

81 comments:

  1. "The lesson one draws from the final exodus of the Jews of Yemen is that the Arab world does not even tolerate non-Zionist Jews. There can be no future for the pitiful remnant in Arab lands if their safety cannot be guaranteed.
    In Morocco, where the Jewish community is largest, Jews traditionally repaid the king's sympathy with tremendous loyalty. But the king of Morocco was unable or unwilling to prevent 260,000 Jews leaving in the face of rising antisemitism in the 1960s, media incitement and forced conversions.
    Even benevolent rulers have been powerless to stem the rising tide of anti-Jewish hatred engulfing the Arab world. Few Arabs are now likely to meet a Jew in their lifetime, and the gullible believe the demonisation and conspiracy theories peddled by their media."
     
    This is a disgrace. I suppose soon we will hear that this too is somebody else's fault? Wasn't I told on this blog by someone that the dhimmi business was all nonsense? Alive and well in Yemen.
    The situation for religious minorities in too many parts of the Muslim world is getting to be perilous. This issue is always deflected with excuses.

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  2. Innocent victims of Zionist aggression like the people of Gaza and Lebanon. In their case the Zionists' dirty work is carried out by "jihadists", creating more settlement fodder to exacerbate the situation.

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  3. Yes, their plight is tragic
     
    Yes, there is still alot of anti-semitic bigotry.
     
    ...and yes, the crazed and illegal actions of fanatical zionists
    have harmed alot of Jews by creating and perpetuating conditions that foster "anti-Israeli" sentiment, which becomes "anti-Jew" to many, instead of just "anti-zionism".

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  4. yes, but the zionists blah blah blah imperio-fascistico blah blah blah patriachio sexisto blah blah blah blah blah ...
     
    it's all someone else's fault.  yeah, right,  inferior arab bitch.  least successful, least free people on the planet. 
     
    the transistion from oil is going to be hard on everyone on the planet ... but for the filthy arab, it is curtains!  lights out!

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  5. Kahein, DJ is not Arab.  

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  6. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">IMHO</span>,I would ban Kahein or Yishai Kohen(or maybe let them post once a month on the last day of the month or something). I know you guys say he just exposes himself as a dastardly, bastardly shit and that helps the cause.
     
        To me, that is like letting some KKK guy take a dump on your front porch every day so that the whole neighborhood can see what an asshole he is. IT STINKS THE PLACE UP!  These guys don't come here for some exchange of ideas. They are just fulltime haters.
    My 2 cents

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  7. It is quite amazing, we heard almost none of this previous to the Zionist plague, and there was good reason - because there was no "natural' antisemitism (or virtually none) in this region. The demise of oil is a double edged sword, because it also means the end of the usefulness of Zionist trash. However, that will not be for a while, because with any power source it is also the power base for a specific elite - and we know that is not the "Arabs."

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  8. You were never told there was no dhimmi vza, you were told that it was not the bullshit that is spouted regarding it by the filthy Zionists. It was not what it is idnetifed as post Zionism.
     
    Oh, and now it is the "Muslim world," why don't you go get a fucking life? Who has invaded who for years - maybe I should call it Christian Crusader disease - or the Western Plague. This is always "deflected" with "you are picking on us boo hoo boo hoo...

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  9. WHO IS LYN JULIUS AND WRITING "PATTERNS" 
      
    http://www.corkpsc.org/piwp/php/authors.php?auid=6492 
      
    "[In] Arab countries ... Jews were often debarred by law from higher education" 
      
    "[A]lmost one million indigenous Jews were dispossessed and displaced by Arab regimes." 
      
    "[T]he Jewish refugees came [to Israel] with little education." 
      
    "The bulk of the Israeli settlements that Ariel Sharon wishes to retain are the recreated Gush Etzion communities on the southern approaches to the city, from which Jews were ethnically cleansed in 1948." 
      
    "[S]ince 1967 Arab building (much of it illegal) has reached epidemic proportions. Many buildings stand empty, funded partly by oil-rich states to stake an Arab claim to the land." 
      
    You know, i am getting tired of this bullshit - you better double check sources before submitting articcles here. Look at the garbage this Julius character espouses. Molly, what is your major malfuction? I thought I was familiar with this gal's "work" and had run into it before, my memory is usually pretty accurate.

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  10. HISTORICAL FALSEHOOD AND IGNORANCE

     
    "Legal arguments over the West Bank
     
    Sir: Lyn Julius confuses the Law of Belligerent Occupation and the Law of Title to Territory, and her conclusions over the occupied territories are wrong on both counts (letter, 29 May). She should read the declaration of the US Judge Buergentha, the only member of the International Court of Justice bench to advise that the court should have declined to issue its advisory opinion on the legal consequences of Israel's so-called wall
    Buergenthal, a Holocaust survivor, nevertheless accepted that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the Occupied Palestinian Territory and that its people have the right of self-determination. Where the right of self-determination exists it overrides claims by a state to sovereignty. Israeli civilian settlements are therefore illegal, and which of Israel or Jordan might have "better title" against the other is irrelevant.
    The time has come for all people of good-will to call on Israel to renounce its inadmissible territorial ambitions in the Occupied Palestinian Territory so that peace may be negotiated between the parties, including the "secure and recognised boundaries" required by Resolution 242. I look forward to seeing Ms Julius do this.
    JOHN MCHUGO
     
    LONDON SW15
    Sir: Rewriting history is rarely a constructive act, but Lyn Julius takes the biscuit for sheer effrontery.
    The 1922 League of Nations mandate did not grant the whole of mandate Palestine to the Jewish people. It incorporated the Balfour Declaration that "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people ... it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".
    In any case, the League of Nations was succeeded by the UN, whose Resolution 181 most specifically did not cede what is now the West Bank to Israel, but identified it as the proposed Arab state. It was subsequently agreed between Israel and Jordan that this area would be incorporated into the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan, an agreement which neither party had a right to make.
    What is needed today is not a rehashing of old, dubious, neo-colonial disputes but a recognition that the human rights of the Palestinians are consistently being abused by Israel, and the need for Justice for all the inhabitants of the Holy Land, Jews and Arabs alike, plus recognition by Israel of international law and the democratic right of Palestinians to elect their own government.
    ROBERT SHEARER
    WINSHAM, SOMERSET"
     
    there is a lot more bullshit like this from good ol' Lyn, let me know if you want to read some more.

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  11. Link to above quotes -
     
    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/letters/letters-ancient-history-451072.html

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  12. Jim Bob Moved to PhillyJune 11, 2009 at 1:10 PM

    Greetings all,

    Excuse the off-topic but I have to ask. Someone please tell me that James von Brunn was not CBH?

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  13. Although I suspect that these claims have been exaggerated, with more than sixty years of ongoing tension between Zionist Jews in Israel and Arabs due to the ongoing violent dispossession and occupation of Palestinians since the creation of the so-called Jewish state of Israel,  I am not surprised that there is anti-semitism in the region which by the way goes both ways....
     
    To me, this should tell us why it is so important to justly resolve this ongoing conflict.
     
    <span style="">What We Turn To</span>
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    <span>This poem was written shortly after the Dec/Jan ('08/'09) massacre in Gaza. The videos & photos that accompany the poem were taken during a delegation to Gaza in May, 2009. For more information, interviews, photographs, etc from this delegation, please see www.vivagaza.org

    For more information about Gaza & the rest of Palestine, see www.electronicintifada.net or www.bdsmovement.org

    </span><span style="color: #c00000;">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsxf3O1MPVI&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.philipweiss.org%2F&feature=player_embedded</span>
     
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  14. Molly,
     
    I am curious have you ever visted the Mondoweiss blog?
     
    If not, you should as it is a very informative Progressive Jewish blog ....

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  15. I did not read the article yet. But just a quick comment...Anti Semitism in the Arab/Muslim world is not excusable of course but  very understandable! When you've been at the receiving end of so much I have no doubts the people will vent 6their frustration in ways people have always done. By the rejection of the group they deem responsible. Besides. Jews have been living in the Arab world for more than 2 thousands years why hasn't this happened during this period?

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  16. I did not read the article yet. But just a quick comment...Anti Semitism in the Arab/Muslim world is not excusable of course but  very understandable! When you've been at the receiving end of so much I have no doubts the people will vent 6their frustration in ways people have always done. By the rejection of the group they deem responsible. Besides. Jews have been living in the Arab world for more than 2 thousands years why now?

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  17. After 9/11 most Americans started to look and treat Muslims in ways they hadn't until then. How different this attitude is in comparison to Arabs' attitude after the Israeli occupation of their lands?

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  18. I'm making quick comments without much elaboration because I'm rather busy. Sorry for that.

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  19. Another thing...Was the Jewish group treated any differently from other minority groups? If it was the case than one could talk about anti Semitism.

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  20. TGIA, I don't expect more from Marion . . . she isn't well informed. However you are far too smart, sophisticated and have too much heart to write some of the above.
     
    Jews have suffered in Islamic lands since 632 AD. Jews were treated far worse in Christiandom. But that does not mean that there wasn't Jew hatred by Takfiris and other extremists in Islamic lands.
     
    TGIA, Palestine has little to do with how muslims treat Jews. Almost all muslims are not Palestinians. The plight of Palestine does not seem to be a priority for the vast majority of muslims (with some notable exceptions.)
     
    Israel, as you have explained to me, does "NOT" reflect Jews.
     
    On 9/11, you are wrong about the American reaction. The immediate American response was pro muslim sentiment. In fact, the American perception of muslims probably hit an all time high after 9/11.
     
    Unfortunately, America's perception of muslims has sharply deterioriated since 2002. The same is true in the entire nonislamic world. Muslims killing muslims in vicious terrorist attacks for reasons that are difficult to understand (for nonmuslims) have greatly damaged the global reputation of muslims, deeply unfair though that is.
     
    TGIA, if someone really cared about Palestinians, then I could see a connection between anti Jewish hatred and Palestine. Unfortunately, few muslims seem interested in helping Palestinians.

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  21. Mr. or Mrs. anonymous said, "TGIA, I don't expect more from Marion . . . she isn't well informed...".
     
    What was it I said that you disagreed with and how did you come to the concluion that I am not well informed?

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  22. TGIA, I think the issue isn't anti "semitism" but anti Jewish sentiment among Arabs. Arabs are semites.
     
    TGIA, I assume you know how badly Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains, Shintos, Toists, and others who are not of the book are treated in Saudi Arabia. While other muslim countries are not as bad as Saudi Arabia, this remains a major problem.
     
    The muslim country that in my opinion treats nonmuslims the best might be Malaysia. Indonesia and Turkey also treat nonmuslims well. As do Indian muslims. Some of the Gulf trading towns such as Dubai also do a good job.
     
    Unfortunately, Jews are treated like people who are not of the book even though they are of the book. Sometimes Jews are even treated worse than people who are not of the book. Christians are treated significantly better than Jews and those who are not of the book.

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  23.  
    "Who has invaded who for years - maybe I should call it Christian Crusader disease - or the Western Plague."
     
     
    I guess they are taking turns, then. Since  you're the one who brought up the Crusaders, I get to point out that the Islamic Empire came into being because of a whole big bunch of invasions. Right up to the Gates of Vienna. I guess there is an expiration date on when it can be counted as awful, right? You are so full of it, it is pathetic. I do know this: I sleep the sleep of a contented person knowing that IF the crazies ever do win, they will come for all of the apologists like you, first.
    Are you really going to be the complete goof and claim there is no serious persecution of religious minorities in Islamic countries?
    Unbelievable.

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  24. This is ridiculous. Maybe the treatment of Palestinians affect "Palestinian" views on Israelis. But it has almost nothing to do with how a Pakistani, Morrocan, Nigerian, Iraqi, Persian, Saudi or Chinese muslim views jews.
     
    Do you really think that most muslims care about Palestinians? If they did, wouldn't they do more to economically help Palestinians? Wouldn't they try to train and equip the Palestinian civilian ministries and security forces?

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  25. "It is quite amazing, we heard almost none of this previous to the Zionist plague,..."
    Almost none? Amazing.

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  26. <h3 class="ruleabove">Why Peretz?</h3>

    <span>From Lyn Julius</span>
    Most Mizrahim, despite being Arabic in culture and language, would wince at Ilan Pappe’s description of them as ‘Arab Jews’ (LRB, 15 December 2005). Their ancient, now extinct communities predated the Arab Islamic conquest by a thousand years. The Mizrahim do not see themselves as Jewish Arabs, nor do they generally feel victimised by the ‘Ashkenazi’ Zionist establishment. This is not to deny that they are seriously affected by discrimination and poverty. But the Mizrahim, who make up half of the Jewish population, have also managed to reach the highest echelons of society in a single generation. Amir Peretz’s rise to power isn’t a flash in the pan: the foreign minister is a Tunisian Jew and the president an Iranian Jew. Pappe is wrong to suggest that a prerequisite for integration was the adoption of ‘strong anti-Arab positions’ by Mizrahi Jews. Some 600,000 Mizrahim came as penniless refugees from oppressive Arab states and would be the first to understand that under Pappe’s ‘one-state solution’ the Jews would revert to being a persecuted minority in an Arab country.
    Lyn Julius
    London SW5
     
    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n02/letters.html

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  27. How do you see that Jews have been treating Arabs Guest?
     
     

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  28. My suggestion to you is to read the articles before you decide to post them tgia....

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  29. "...I had an id banned completely (levi9909) on the mere say-so of Linda Grant and I had a comment under a new id (ilan) deleted from an enormously questionable article by Lyn Julius in which she claimed that all of the Jews from Arab countries were ethnically cleansed, something which many diehard zionists dispute. I sought an explanation from the moderator and none came. I merely pointed out that even zionists dispute Lyn Julius's version of events. Subsequently, a regular commenter to Cif called JeremyHP used the deletion as "proof" that I am antisemitic, after all "even the Guardian" deleted my comment. ..."
     
    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/levi9909/8033122413249082762/

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  30. Legal arguments over the West Bank
    Sir: Lyn Julius confuses the Law of Belligerent Occupation and the Law of Title to Territory, and her conclusions over the occupied territories are wrong on both counts (letter, 29 May). She should read the declaration of the US Judge Buergentha, the only member of the International Court of Justice bench to advise that the court should have declined to issue its advisory opinion on the legal consequences of Israel's so-called wall
    Buergenthal, a Holocaust survivor, nevertheless accepted that the Fourth Geneva Convention applies to the Occupied Palestinian Territory and that its people have the right of self-determination. Where the right of self-determination exists it overrides claims by a state to sovereignty. Israeli civilian settlements are therefore illegal, and which of Israel or Jordan might have "better title" against the other is irrelevant.
    The time has come for all people of good-will to call on Israel to renounce its inadmissible territorial ambitions in the Occupied Palestinian Territory so that peace may be negotiated between the parties, including the "secure and recognised boundaries" required by Resolution 242. I look forward to seeing Ms Julius do this.
    JOHN MCHUGO
    LONDON SW15
    Sir: Rewriting history is rarely a constructive act, but Lyn Julius takes the biscuit for sheer effrontery.
    The 1922 League of Nations mandate did not grant the whole of mandate Palestine to the Jewish people. It incorporated the Balfour Declaration that "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people ... it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine".
    In any case, the League of Nations was succeeded by the UN, whose Resolution 181 most specifically did not cede what is now the West Bank to Israel, but identified it as the proposed Arab state. It was subsequently agreed between Israel and Jordan that this area would be incorporated into the Hashemite Kingdom of Transjordan, an agreement which neither party had a right to make.
    What is needed today is not a rehashing of old, dubious, neo-colonial disputes but a recognition that the human rights of the Palestinians are consistently being abused by Israel, and the need for Justice for all the inhabitants of the Holy Land, Jews and Arabs alike, plus recognition by Israel of international law and the democratic right of Palestinians to elect their own government.
    ROBERT SHEARER
    WINSHAM, SOMERSET
     
    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/letters/letters-ancient-history-451072.html

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  31. So you think most Arab citizens have always been huge fans of the state of Israel from it's 1948 beginning right up to today Anand, and that the injustice done to the Palestinians is in no way an issue that concerns them or something they feel strongly about?
     
    Is that what you are saying?  Priceless :-D   Once again Anand, I christen you the OSTRICH KING OF OBTUSENESS!
     
     

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  32. TGIA, I think the issue isn't anti "semitism" but anti Jewish sentiment among Arabs. Arabs are semites.
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    I already replied once. Being anti Jewish is anti Semitism. I don't accept the idea that anti Jewish sentiments were prevalent before the occupation of Palestine. If it was then it CERTAINLY wasn't mainstream or widespread.
    I'm sick and tired of repeating the same thing over and over again!! You guys are convinced that Arabs are anti Semitic and obviously  nothing is going to convince you of the contrary!!!! This is the LAST time I'll ever post anything like this article!!! All it does is fuel your preconceived ideas about the region and it's people and not helping to articulate or even help to conceive of any other opinion!!! Enough crap!!!

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  33. I go to Mondoweiss Marion. He also helps produce another of my favorite Progressive Jewish bloggers-Max Blumenthal.
    http://maxblumenthal.com/

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  34. TGIA, I think the issue isn't anti "semitism" but anti Jewish sentiment among Arabs. Arabs are semites. 
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    I already replied once. Being anti Jewish is anti Semitism. I don't accept the idea that anti Jewish sentiments were prevalent before the occupation of Palestine. If it were then it CERTAINLY wasn't mainstream or widespread. 
    I'm sick and tired of repeating the same thing over and over again!! You guys are convinced that Arabs are anti Semitic and obviously  nothing is going to convince you of the contrary!!!! This is the LAST time I'll ever post anything like this article!!! All it does is fuel your preconceived ideas about the region and it's people and not helping to articulate or even help to conceive of any other opinion!!! 

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  35. TGIA, I think the issue isn't anti "semitism" but anti Jewish sentiment among Arabs. Arabs are semites.  
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    I already replied once. Being anti Jewish is anti Semitism. I don't accept the idea that anti Jewish sentiments were prevalent before the occupation of Palestine. If it were then it CERTAINLY wasn't mainstream or widespread.  
    I'm sick and tired of repeating the same thing over and over again!! You guys are convinced that Arabs are anti Semitic or anti Jewish as if it's something different and obviously  nothing is going to convince you of the contrary!!!! This is the LAST time I'll ever post anything like this article!!! All it does is fuel your preconceived ideas about the region and it's people and not helping to articulate or even help to conceive of any other opinion!!!

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  36. Saudi Arabia is not ypour average typical Arab/Muslim state...

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  37. Marion, (the anonymous "Guest") was Anand,
    the mad fool of Absurdistan. He, as I'm sure you're learning, is so utterly hopeless that there isn't a word in English to describe his brand of lunacy.  Maybe we can come up with that word on this blog! ;)

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  38. Besides, Saudi Arabia is not your average typical Arab/Muslim state...Not many Arabs feel connected to this country either culturally or socially, holy places notwithstanding.

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  39. Unfortunately, Jews are treated like people who are not of the book even though they are of the book.
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    Very wrong! I shouldn't even bother responding to such assertions.

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  40. <div id="title-heading">
    <div><span style="">Largest Muslim countries</span></div>
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    <td> </td>
    <td>Country</td>
    <td>Muslim Population</td>
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    <tr bgcolor="#ffffff">
    <td>1</td>
    <td><span style="color: #0033bb;">Indonesia</span></td>
    <td>182,570,000</td>
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    <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee">
    <td>2</td>
    <td><span style="color: #0033bb;">Pakistan</span></td>
    <td>134,480,000</td>
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    <td>3</td>
    <td><span style="color: #0033bb;">India</span></td>
    <td>121,000,000</td>
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    <tr bgcolor="#eeeeee">
    <td>4</td>
    <td><span style="color: #0033bb;">Bangladesh</span></td>
    <td>114,080,000</td>
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    <tr bgcolor="#ffffff">
    <td>5</td>
    <td><span style="color: #0033bb;">Turkey</span></td>
    <td>65,510,000</td>
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    <td>6</td>
    <td><span style="color: #0033bb;">Iran</span></td>
    <td>62,430,000</td>
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    <td>7</td>
    <td><span style="color: #0033bb;">Egypt</span></td>
    <td>58,630,000</td>
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    <td>8</td>
    <td><span style="color: #0033bb;">Nigeria</span></td>
    <td>53,000,000</td>
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    <td>9</td>
    <td><span style="color: #0033bb;">Algeria</span></td>
    <td>30,530,000</td>
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    <td>10</td>
    <td><span style="color: #0033bb;">Morocco</span></td>
    <td>28,780,000</td>
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  41. "When you've been at the receiving end of so much..."
     
    Excuse me, but what have the Jews done to Arabs in Yemen, Morocco, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia etc.? I know what Zionists have done and are doing in Palestine but I don't get this extension of the right to rage to all Arabs no matter where they live. That's that goofy cartoon mentality at work again.  Arab man is mad at the Zionists, so he hates Jews, and attacks some poor, powerless dhimmi in a dwindling tribe of Jews in Yemen and that is understandable? Sorry, wrong word, folks. How about incomprehensible and stupid?
     
     

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  42. Whats the matter vza are you historically challenged? For over a tousand years until Zionism this was not the case with the Jewish population in the "Muslim World."  What brought it on, sudden cases of antisemitic madness - kiss my ass heavy sleeper, you already are snoring.

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  43. Whats the matter vza are you historically challenged? For over a thousand years until Zionism, this was not the case with the Jewish population in the "Muslim World."  What brought it on, sudden cases of antisemitic madness - kiss my ass heavy sleeper, you already are snoring. You make about as much sense as a Disney fairy tale extravaganza.

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  44. "Although I suspect that these claims have been exaggerated,..."
     
    The writer quotes Yemenis, Marion. Human rights activists. Newspaper writers in Yemen and you suspect these claims are exaggerated? Based on what?

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  45. No, v that boo, hoo is what we constantly hear from the whiners who blame EVERYTHING on something or somebody else.

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  46. I usually do Marion.

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  47. Hey Anand, you're "I don't have shit for brains" brother IM is calling you, he has some new shaped colonial dildo's for you to try out...LOL!
     
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CPQkXr_0_k
     

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  48. Based on a constant record of lies and exaggerations in all of her writing (far be it from you vza to think this person has some problems, and by now I think we all know why you hold this position - with no knowledge). However, maybe it is a "cry wolf" scenarion this time...my ass

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  49. Hey Marion, maybe Lyn can channel some ancient Jewish spirits for us for proof...lol

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  50. Kahein is banned now DJ.

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  51. No, YOU are history challenged. Of course, Jews fared far better under Islamic rule than Christian rule but that does not mean that it was all sweetness and light. You seem to be implying that all was fine until Zionism. Baloney. Major massacres throughout the history of Islamic rule. WHOLE communities wiped out. You know it, too... that is why you have to resort to your usual nonsense. No argument, v. Admit it.

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  52. What a crock! You can still verify the quotes from the journalists,writers, and human rights activists of Yemen who were quoted in the article. That is one way of checking. That might be a bit more time consuming than just condemning the writer, but hey, I know that for you, time is not an issue when searching for the truth.!

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  53. Yes, Marion, I like it. :)

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  54. Yes, TGIA, but Jews in Yemen were treated badly before Israel.

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  55. Okay, I shouldn't have sent this article.  Mea Culpa!

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  56. Where is my comment to DJ's remark? I posted it here less than a half hour ago?

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  57. Perhaps Lyn can channel some ancient Jewish spirits for proof Marion...LOL

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  58. Lyn's "Proofs"
     
    "The court ruled that the attacker was mentally unstable and ordered him to pay damages. The murder of al-Nahari was the first of its kind in at least fifteen years." (emphasis mine)
     
    Sounds like an epidemic to me...(above)
     
    Second one comes from "Ynet," a VERY independent "source"...
     
    Third proof from HAMZA HENDAWI, who follows the loving empire like a little puppy dog, and when any Zionist coughs he can feel it because his hand is on their balls...
     
    The 4th from The National, the empire express of Abu Dhabai UAE - home of the new orientalism of Indyk Inc. and the Bernard Lewis School makeover, the "moderate" chosen few...
     
    Forbidden link to "human rights" site...lol
     
    Oh yes, the horrid Morocco, that is why I have gone there vacation, and thousands of other Jews - to be attacked by extremist groups, can't have a vacation without it...
     
    vza, this was REALLY impressive stuff...it is aboute as true and astute as your links

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  59. Vza that was a really choice argument for the first incident of that nature in 15 years, while in the same breath saying "you know" whats going on with the Palestinians. What did you say about "goofy cartoon mentality" which you are the consummate queen of? I wish there was a way to communicate mental proportinality to you, but apparently you think like Zionists use proportion in they're massacres.

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  60. Wow! I am impressed. Commentary, too! What links are you talking about? I haven't posted any links today. Not about this story.
    You have yet to contact the human rights activists quoted.
    Mission  NOT accomplished! ;)

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  61. vza
    Unfortunately comment still do disappear. Do not close the window until the mention delete reply is acxtive. I lost a comment this morning too.

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  62. vza 
    Unfortunately comments still do disappear. Do not close the window until the mention 'delete- reply' is active. I lost a comment this morning too.

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  63. This is not about the Zionists. This is about a harmless group of 400 hundred Jews who don't even believe in Zionism! Regardless of whether Julius is on your approved list or not is immaterial to me. The fact remains that these poor people, who have no power at all to protect themselves, feel they must leave their beloved land. Why?
    Not a one of you has mentioned the real reason for all this nastiness and the persecution of the religious minorities....the Islamists. Muslims and Jews and Christians would get along just fine without the insidious influence of these parasitic religious nutcases who stir up all this hatred. It is so much eassier to blame it on the Zionists.

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  64. This is not about the Zionists. This is about a harmless group of 400 hundred Jews who don't even believe in Zionism! Regardless of whether Julius is on your approved list or not is immaterial to me. The fact remains that these poor people, who have no power at all to protect themselves, feel they must leave their beloved land. Why? 
    Not a one of you has mentioned the real reason for all this nastiness and the persecution of the religious minorities....the Islamists. Muslims and Jews and Christians would get along just fine without the insidious influence of these parasitic religious nutcases who stir up all this hatred. It is so much easier to blame it on the Zionists.

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  65. This is not about the Zionists. This is about a harmless group of 400 Jews who don't even believe in Zionism! Regardless of whether Julius is on your approved list or not is immaterial to me. The fact remains that these poor people, who have no power at all to protect themselves, feel they must leave their beloved land. Why?  
    Not a one of you has mentioned the real reason for all this nastiness and the persecution of the religious minorities....the Islamists. Muslims and Jews and Christians would get along just fine without the insidious influence of these parasitic religious nutcases who stir up all this hatred. It is so much easier to blame it on the Zionists.

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  66. Aww, well vza, I will burn my religious books if you will burn yours

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  67. <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="">“The Jewish community in Yemen is one of the oldest and at peace with its Arab neighbors. It numbers only around 300 nowadays, some 43,000 having been airlifted out of Aden secretly by Israel during "Operation Flying Carpet" which took place between 1949 and 1950… Raydah resident Yahya Habeeb told Arrabyee that "Jews live in peace with the Yemeni tribes and they are not subjected to annoyance or harassment." When Israeli tanks and bulldozers rolled into Jenin, Yemeni Jews donated both money and blood to aid the Palestinian people, some eager to fight against Sharon's troops…Yemeni Jews in Israel often suffer from a sense of isolation and are discriminated against to the point where recent émigrés ­ seven Jewish families - asked the Israeli government to send them back to Yemen due to their inability to adapt to life in Israel.” </span>
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    <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style=""><span style="color: #800080;">http://www.rense.com/general76/visct.htm</span></span>
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  68. <p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; line-height: normal;"><span style="">My compliments V, a job well F done!</span>

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  69. Yes I do happen to think that many Muslims  even in non-Arab countries, who are aware of the Palestinian plight,  care about Palestinains anand...And why were you pretending to be anonymous when you were talking about me to tgia?
     

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  70. Based on the fact that this writer has not been honest in the past....

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  71. "Israel, as you have explained to me, does "NOT" reflect Jews.  "
     
    Israel doesn't reflect ALL Jews,  but many Jews still consider themselves as Zionists and support Israel and its racist ways which does not reflect well on Jews....

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  72. Please do present some facts to back this up so that we can decide for ourselves...

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  73. First of all I don't consider  AlQaeda as Islamists...I consider them as enemies of Islam, not to mention civilization...And it seems to me they serve the interests of this so-called war on Terror the West is waging, not Muslim interests...And just in case you haven't noticed,  they have been killing and driving different groups of people who they don't agree with out from their homes and lands not only in Yemen, but in Iraq, Afghnistan, Pakistan....   I rightfully hold AlQaeda and the so-called moderate by the West Arab dictatorial leaders accountable for  what has been happening to these Jews in Yemen and to so many other minorities, including many Muslims  in Yemen and elsewhere....

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  74. The immediate American response was pro muslim sentiment. In fact, the American perception of muslims probably hit an all time high after 9/11. 
     
    Please tell me what drugs you are taking so I can throw out my clearly ineffective Oxycontin-crackcocaine mix.

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  75. NIIIIIIIICCCCE as Borat would say.

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  76. Ha ha ha!

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