Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Lebanon

Habibi Tgia,
What are your views on Lebanon events today?
Your Lebanese and that's why I am asking! Today is an important day in Lebanon if you ask me. So many things, so many things.
Today it was recommended that the four Lebanese generals would get released from custody immediately. Of course that terrible piece of kharra Saad Hariri immediately gave one statement full of so many lies. Did you know Hariri said it is the fault of the "opposition" that those 4 where sitting in a jail for so long?
Does it insult you when they lie in this way? It insults me and I am not even Lebanese!
Today I was looking at some footage of New TV of some in Masr there were interesting news of the police slapping a Palestinian man in the face for a long time and laughing at him.
Seems to methat New TV released all that info as a message to Welsh of "look at how they do interrogations before opening your mouth to talk about wonderful Egypt" but I don't think that will make any sense to Welsh since I don't expect those people to have humanity when it comes to the "wrong" Arabs.
So many spies also have been caught in the last few weeks thanks to Hezbollah, including two shameful spies that did get caught in Saida who are Palestinian collaborators working for the Israelis.
It looks like Hezbollah will win the elections soon and it should be a lesson to the rest of the Arabs in the world and the rest of the non Arabs that when you oppress a people over and continue to treat them like animals the way some of the non Shiite political parties did to the people in the Jnoub for to long then the people will fight back And get the support of the population.
I don't think that it is a good thing necessarily for the opposition to win the elections, but not because I am afraid of Nasrallah or the influence of Shiite religious observation. Because to be honest with you since I was a child the only religious "stories" that ever sounded very interesting to me where from the Shiite people, esp. Hussein, Ali and those characters. I don't think that Nasrallah gains to much to control the government, I like him as a the Opposition and he will be less effective when they try to dilute him in a different position.
And I think that no matter what we hear about these elections that the March 14th movement is looking to make a big dilution of the Sayyed with these elections.
One good thing about the news for the Generals today is that Future TV kept its mouth shut all day long, they only spoke when mini Hariri gave his ignorant speech that he sounds much worst than the Saudi royals when they are trying to read in front of a camera. Those Hariri March 14th people got dealt a big defeat today and they know that the support for the Sayyed is so huge and can be mobilized at any time in minutes and this is not the Hezbollah members this is the people of the Jnoub that can do the mobilization.
So if it is one good thing among the majority terrible things that the usurping entity gave to Lebanon was the fact that it made some of the people set out and decide whether they will be led by there d**** by puppets or whether they will support the resistance against Israeli criminal attacks and against the people internally that are plotting against the own interests of there people.
Being home with the non swine flu has given me the chance to catch up on all the news channels that I cant spend to much time watching when I am working trying to be with my family and finding some bad news to put on this blog.
There are very few times that I can look at something in the Middle East and feel any kind of pride but today I do have pride that the Sayyed is handing the death certificate to this silly March 14th movement. They are finished, destroyed.
There were even some Sunni sheiks who got on the television today and praised the Sayyed and said that they stand with the opposition it seems from interviews of Palestinians that they are not ashamed to give there support to the Sayyed to.
Again this is nothing to do with religion or religious choices and I don't think anyone should fear the opposition victory, I don't see any type of extremism coming from the Jnoub initiated by Hezbollah to warrant fear of them.

1-April 29; A Decisive Day in the Four Officers’ Life
2-Lebanon tribunal prosecutor requests generals' release

3-A Tale of Four Generals and a ‘Revolution’

4-Bless the courageous and decent people from the Jnoub!

5-Hundreds protest as US ambassador visits south


6-US ambassador in Lebanon was inaugurating some theater in some schools in `Aba in South Lebanon earlier today. As soon as she arrived, reporters gathered and showered her with questions about American support for Israeli war crimes in Lebanon. Suddenly, a crowd gathered outside with makeshift signs against American embrace of Israeli war crimes andthe use of American weapons in South Lebanon. She hurried and left. This is based on a report with footage on NBN TV.

7-New TV added more details about the failed visit by the US ambassador in Lebanon to South Lebanon. It showed a group of angry female demonstrators making threats against the ambassador, and there were shoes hailed in the air. When the ambassador made it to the school, she was asked by angry residents about the value of US aid when Israel destroys South Lebanon.

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Lebanon is preparing for elections that could dramatically alter the leadership of the moderate country. One of the expected big winners is Hezbollah, which commands a huge and growing influence in Lebanon. Some call it a state within a state; a movement that is all too willing to fill any gaps it perceives left open by the government. Hezbollah, with its close ties to Iran, has become very influential -- and though the U.S. government considers them terrorists, they are heroes to their many followers.

9-Calls for engagement with Hezbollah in Lebanon are increasing in Washington, Britain is opening dialogue with non-state players and the Syrians are back in the international arena. Steadily, the Middle East leftovers of the George W Bush era are being eroded, and people like Lebanese warlord Walid Jumblatt are preparing for the new alignments.

10-Fadlallah says opposition will be unified in pollsBut remember mini Hariri said that the opposition was to blame for keeping them in prison for so long!
They are finished!
Good riddance!

...M14 lobbied to delay decision until after the elections, but Tribunal figures refused "political considerations"...
... Lebanese officials had lobbied to have the decision delayed until after the elections, but tribunal judicial figures refused, saying they could not take political considerations into account, said a senior court official who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the court’s inner workings. ... The tribunal has always been controversial in Lebanon. Many supporters have seen it as a way to punish Syria and its proxies here, which they tend to blame for all the assassinations since 2005. By contrast, those in the political opposition — including Hezbollah — see it more as a political weapon aimed at their Syrian ally. They also ask why such a tribunal is warranted for a billionaire politician and not for the victims of the many massacres and assassinations that have taken place here in recent decades..."

from "friday-lunch-club" by G, Z, & or B

My friend, Gen. Mustapha Hamdan, saying farewell to the Rumieh inmates, as he was acclaimed by all including the hapless Salafis who are usually Electoral fodder of the 11th hour for the FUTURE bloc... . Private Photo from Private Collection.

41 comments:

  1. And because I am sick today with little to do I will go back upstairs and recheck for my spelling errors, can you imagine my spelling is terrible and I dont bother to check it?
    But pls. dont get spoiled because I will fix my mistakes and make the formating more nice for yes, I dont think I will have time to do those things when I am very busy with work!

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  2. I am glad that you put  that picture  of President Lahoud  up Saif.
     
    I really love that man and I thought he made a great President for Lebanon!  Of course I do not love him as much as I love Sayed Hassan.
     
    I actually had tears flowing when I watched him leave office. For me it was a sad day, but at the same time I understood that his term was over.....

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  3. Thanks for sharing Marion. What do you think about the economic policies of different Lebanese political parties?

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  4. My primary concern anand is whether or not the policital parties are corrupted...Their economic policies won't make a difference if they are corrupted...

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  5. "My primary concern anand is whether or not the policital parties are corrupted...Their economic policies won't make a difference if they are corrupted..."
     
    And Anand has a primary concern for $$ above human rights and dignity, every thing has some dollar amount for him.
    He's just a big clown.

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  6. Tgia,
    even though I spent to much time in this post talking about my opinions and posting news that I thought it was important I just realized that I dont know any single thing about your politics in Lebanon, so I am just curious to ask if you have any comments about the news today?

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  7. Hmmm. What political parties are the least corrupt?
     
    There are many aspects to Lebanese politics that I don't understand. Why does Nasrallah spend so much money on his own militia, when Lebonan already has an army to protect Lebonon? Couldn't he merge his forces into the Lebanese Army and use the money that Iran gives him for social services instead?

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  8. Saif
    I left Lebanon looooong time ago. Lebanese politics are too much for me. In every sense! Although aware of the headlines and the bottom lines I haven't been following the details. It bores the shit out me. I admire people like As'ad who can talk about the subject with a confidence that I don't have. Not enough knowledge. The same with Iraq(somehow of course,). I avoid these two subjects altogether until the discussion is around something I'm familiar with. My attitude now is "shut up, listen and learn" from those who know! I have to say though that I'm not completely ignorant about these 2 topics, FAAAAAR from it but I like the idea of not positing as an expert on this one
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  9. If Palestine were rich they could buy off the Israelis. The Israelis will bend over backwards to accomodate rich people. It isn't fair or right; but life is like that.
     
    PS. Israel's policies are empeding a successful Palestinian private sector.

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  10. So here I am now learning from you Saif about my own country! Why not! You've been living closer to that area than I've been for 35 years!

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  11. Yes, the army makes good cookies and tea for the Zionists

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  12. Anand
    <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">There are many aspects to Lebanese politics that I don't understand. Why does Nasrallah spend so much money on his own militia, when Lebonan already has an army to protect Lebonon?</span>
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    It was Hizboullah that dislodged the IOF from the so called buffer zone in the south of Lebanon after lt was occupied for 15 years (Year 2000) , IT WAS NOT THE LEBANESE ARMY.
    The IOF had largely been defeated and sent back to Israel in Guerilla warfare and constant retaliation by Hizboullah .Israel was unwilling to sustain their human losses  ,however Israel to this day is still occupying a strategic but small area in the south (Chebah farms).Hizboullah resisted the occupation <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Not the Lebanese Army</span> ,and eventually leading to the failed attempt by the IOF to eradicate Hizboullah in June 2006 ,killing over 1000 Lebanese ,majority were civilians and thereby devastating the country. they were only 2600 Hizboullah fighters . 
    ISRAEL Failed twice in Lebanon on the hands of Hizboullah and this is why they're important.
    In the meanwhile The Lebanese Army were <span style="font-weight: bold;">patrolling the traffic</span> .

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  13. On the social front Hizboullah is not unlike Hamas in some ways. They took on social responsibilities such as schooling rebuilding and so on. The Lebanese Government washed their hands off the south and the Shiites majority long time ago. Hizboullah filled the gap.
     

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  14. anand
    How do you want the Palestinians to become rich? Can you be more specific? Please don't forget the reality of the occupation! Back to you!
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  15. Lebanon has a very intersting history, well I think so,,,,

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  16. It will be very challenging to become rich. Especially since Israeli policies are impeding Palestinian progress.
     
    I have some ideas though. However, maybe some other time. Someone like Israel Gone might accuse me of being insensitive by focusing on the Palestinian economy rather than occupation, apartheid and civil rights for Palestinians.

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  17. I wouldn't mind hearing your perspectives TGIA. None of us know the truth. Your perspectives are always your best synopsis regarding what you knew at the time.
     
    You are right that Lebonan is confusing. Why don't they have a simple one person one vote political process; and get rid of all the militias except for the national police and army? Why can't all Lebanese behave as one people who live in one country that they all love equally?

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  18. VAA, according to Kofi Annan and the UN, the Sheba farms do not belong to Lebonan. According to them the Israeli occupation ended in 2000.
     
    Israel, I believe, is willing to cede the Sheba farms to Lebonan provided the Syrians renounce all claims to them (which Syria has refused to do.)
     
    Israel has never had territorial ambitions outside of Palestine (the West Bank, especially East Jerusalem are different.) The only reason Israel was in Lebonan was to prevent attacks on Israel from Lebonan. Israel wanted Lebonan to commit to not attacking Israel in return for Israel's withdrawal.
     
    In 2000, Israel gave up on waiting for Lebonan to commit not to attack Israel, and unilaterally pulled out of Lebonan. Israel also wanted to save money (that they were spending on Lebanese militias, social services inside the "buffer zone," IDF military operations.) Barak felt that Israel should see if a unilateral pullout in the absense of an agreement with Lebonan would work. Barak was also trying to appease Clinton, EU, Russia, UN, Arab World, India, China, Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia, Japan, and the international community, by that move. Barack's withdrawal from Lebonan, for example enabled a closer Indian Israeli alliance; and better relations with other countries as well.
     
    The Israeli withdrawal from Lebonan did not achieve Israeli goals. Hezbollah kept attacking Israel from Lebonon, provoking the 2006 war.
     
    I am critical of Israeli conduct during the 2006 war (the US military and Secretary Rice were stunned by Israeli bombing in Lebanese civilian areas. The US air force was not allowed to behave in a similar fassion in Iraq for example.) Israeli actions were also anti American since PM Maliki was furious at how his close long time friends Nasrallah and Hezbollah were being bombed. The US military put a lot of pressure on Secretary Rumsfeld to stop Israel. Unfortunately Bush didn't listen to (or understand) Rumsfeld.
     
    This said, it isn't clear who won militarily in 2006. Hezbollah performed well in the fight (fighting better than any Arab army has ever fought except for the Iraqi Army.) The IDF also fought better in 2006 than it had ever fought before. The IDF killed some 600 or more Hezbollah fighters, including hundreds of senior cadre. Hezbollah's militia has still not recovered the capabilities it had in 2006.
     
    My view in 2006 was why couldn't America form an alliance with "BOTH" Hezbollah and Israel to fight the Takfiri. {Yes, many of you find that way of thinking naive. I understand why that perspective might be offensive to some.}

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  19. anand


    You can look up endless sites which confirm Shebaa Farms are Lebanese , and even if it's Syrian it's Not Israeli's 
    Israeli Occupation of the Shebaa Farms: 
    During the 1967 Six Day War Israeli forces seized a piece of Lebanese territory called the Shebaa Farms, a 25 square kilometer area consisting of 14 farms located south of the Shebaa, a Lebanese village on the western slopes of Mount Hermon. Since Lebanon was not a participant in the Six Day War, UN representatives were biased for Israel, pointing out that the 1923 Anglo-French demarcation and the 1949 Armistice line clearly designated the area as Syrian territory. The UN backed Israel and certified its pullout from Lebanon.
     
    However, Lebanese and Syrian officials insisted that Syria had officially given the territory to Lebanon in 1951. Lebanese officials pointed to the fact that a number of residents in the area have land deeds stamped by the Lebanese government.
     
    Lebanese army maps published in 1961 and 1966 specifically pinpoint several of the Shebaa Farms, including Zebdine, Fashkoul, Mougr Shebaa and Ramta, all of which are designated as being lebanese. Lebanese Ministry of Tourism maps also show the Lebanese-Syrian border running west of the Shebaa Farms. Syria has officially acknowledged the Farms are Lebanese.
     
    Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said the Israeli-occupied Shebaa Farms belong to Lebanon. Assad told a news conference in Paris before ending a state visit to France, Beirut and Damascus will demarcate their countries' border at Shebaa Farms after Israel withdraws from the region. They will then submit a new map to the UN.
     
    The Lebanese Resistance has vowed to keep up resistance operations in the area until Israel withdraws.

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  20. Anand
    Report: Israel to consider Shebaa Farms withdrawal From Ynetnews.com - According to Arab newspaper al-Hayat, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert expressed willingness to discuss transfer of Shebaa Farms to Lebanese authority upon release of Israeli soldiers kidnapped by Hizboullah

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  21. anand
    <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">Israel, I believe, is willing to cede the Sheba farms to Lebonan provided the Syrians renounce all claims to them (which Syria has refused to do.)  </span>
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    Israel is not in the business of ceding. They're in the business of stealing.

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  22. VAA, if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad formally renounces all claims to Sheba farms, good for him. This is the first I have ever heard of it. However, the Lebanese should demand that the Syrians do so in writing (and formally declare that the Sheba farms belong to Lebonan.)
     
    If the Lebanese can demonstrate that Syria is writing formally declares Sheba farms to be part of Lebonan; then I think the Israelis would yield the Sheba farms to Lebonon. Israel does not want the Sheba farms. They plan to return it as part of the Golan Heights to Syria after they sign a peace treaty with Syria.
     
    On another note I would like to ask a question. Does Israel have any territorial ambitions outside of Lebonan? Excluding the Palestinian issue, what misconduct is Israel engaged in?

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  23. anand
    In 2000, Israel gave up on waiting for Lebonan to commit not to attack Israel, and unilaterally pulled out of Lebonan.
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    By the late 1990s a change in the political dynamic of the conflict was becoming more apparent. While Israel was strategically able to sustain its losses (normally around two to three soldiers killed each month), the will of the Israeli public to accept what were seen as pointless deaths began to fade. The security zone eventually failed to provide security as Hezbollah teams could still fire rockets into Northern Israel. With each loss, Hezbollah assumed ever more heroic proportions in the eyes of the Lebanese public and the rest of the Arab world as one of the first Arab armed forces to ever successfully match swords with the Jewish State. Through constant low-level combat, Hezbollah became an ever more effective and better trained force.
     
     
    <span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Therefore it's a defeat.</span></span>

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  24. <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">The Israeli withdrawal from Lebonan did not achieve Israeli goals. Hezbollah kept attacking Israel from Lebonon, provoking the 2006 war.  </span>
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    Hizboullah ,like any resistance group and in the absence of the Lebanese Armed Bicycles have all the right in the world to resist the occupation and aggression of the rouge state.
     

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  25. if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad formally renounces all claims to Sheba farms, good for him.
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    anand
    Respectfully...This is something you shouldn't waste your time on! Where I grew up, I could see Sheba' farms so no body can teach me about the area! The area is Lebanese!! Bashshar never claimed it for Syria because EVERY Lebanese and Syrian knows it's Lebanese! Only when Israel gets involved in this it becomes an imbroglio! Why don't you just forget about because as I said before it's going to be TOO complicated for you.

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  26. Israel does not want the Sheba farms.
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    Maybe yes maybe no! But you're always affirmative which is very irritating!!!

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  27. Does Israel have any territorial ambitions outside of Lebonan? Excluding the Palestinian issue, what misconduct is Israel engaged in? 
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    The Golan heights(Syrian) is already annexed by the poor, peace loving Israeli state! Never heard you complaining about it!
    South Lebanon is targeted by the "Greater Israel" wackos too! 
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  28. anand
    <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">I am critical of Israeli conduct during the 2006 war</span>
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    I'm glad that you're just critical. your true values are within your words. 
    1300 dead , Tons of illegal bombs dropped still killing kids and women who work in the fields ,destruction of every bridge in Beirut ,bombing petrol refineries,and any sign of civilisation
    Flattening whole suburbs on it's residents.
    even in the north of the country some hundreds of Kilometres away.etc.
    And anand is critical!!!!
     
    Even Israel's acknowledged the defeat ,but not you anand 
     
     

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  29. anand
    <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">VAA, if Syrian President Bashar al-Assad formally renounces all claims to Sheba farms, good for him. This is the first I have ever heard of it. However, the Lebanese should demand that the Syrians do so in writing (and formally declare that the Sheba farms belong to Lebonan.) </span>
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    Don't start making terms and conditions
    In this part of the country Syrians and Lebanese live side by side as they farm the land.To them who owns the village hardly matters. It's not like the US-Mexico borders .IT"S all in the links. read them and stop being silly .

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  30. <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">On another note I would like to ask a question. Does Israel have any territorial ambitions outside of Lebonan? Excluding the Palestinian issue, what misconduct is Israel engaged in?</span>
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    <span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Here is your own partial comment :</span></span></span>
    <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">Israel has never had territorial ambitions outside of Palestine (the West Bank, especially East Jerusalem are different.) The only reason Israel was in Lebonan was to prevent attacks on Israel from Lebonan. Israel wanted Lebonan to commit to not attacking Israel in return for Israel's withdrawal</span>
    So Why ask ?
    Or is it that you want to refute all 
    Did it occur to you "The Golan Heights is in Syria and it's illegally occupied.

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  31. anand
    BTW why is East Jerusalem and West Bank different ?
    Just an observation , no need for an answer .

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  32. anand
    <span style="color: #404040; font-size: 11px;">VAA, according to Kofi Annan and the UN, the Sheba farms do not belong to Lebonan. According to them the Israeli occupation ended in 2000.  </span>
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    Provide a link I mean a WEB-LINK not your Imagination's link.
    and preferably non Zionist .

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  33. anand
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    <div class="js-singleCommentText" style="padding-top: 4px;">If Palestine were rich they could buy off the Israelis. The Israelis will bend over backwards to accomodate rich people. It isn't fair or right; but life is like that. </div>
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    <div class="js-singleCommentText" style="padding-top: 4px;">Are you still doing the same dance Anand ?</div>
    <div class="js-singleCommentText" style="padding-top: 4px;">How about some lentils to Gaza first.</div>
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  34. DEFEAT
    In a military confrontation ,defeat is when one opponent fail to achieve it's own objectives. Regardless of casualties and devastation (My Definition)
    In Lebanon
    Round 1-Year 2000 Israel failed to sustain it's military occupation in the south.(known as security zone)  <span style="font-weight: bold;">Score 1-0</span>
    Round 2-Year 2006 Israel failed to remove and end Hizboullah dominance in the south ,Hizboullah had gain a lot from that war despite their losses,they are now much stronger military and politically.
    their popularity increased dramatically. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Score 2-0</span> 
    Round 3-Year 2008 Gaza's Onslaught to eliminate HAMAS (The Known objective) the result Destruction and increased Hamas's Popularity. <span style="font-weight: bold;">Score 3-0</span> 
     
    Overall Results
    Israel's is able to maintain their image of military supremacy and barbarity ,but none of the involved are any less determined.
    Israel is more vulnerable and exposed than ever before.  

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  35. I think anand spends too much time on blogs like Michael Totten's which explains his clueless position  ....

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  36. Maybe you should ask the French that question anand since they are the ones whoc olonized the country and originally formulated Lebanon's present sectarian form of government.....

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  37. Marion, I disagree with what the French did. The Lebanese shouldn't bind themselves to French mistakes.

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  38. anand, I think it would be much easier for that to take place if the pro-Israel Western governments were not always interfering in Lebanon...
     

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  39. Anand


    Marion, I disagree with what the French did. The Lebanese shouldn't bind themselves to French mistakes. 
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    I suggest you Email the French. And while you're at it ask them for an apology ,I really like an apology.. 
      
    Also Email the IOF to Fuck-Off Sheebah Farms.
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  40. Anand


    If Palestine were rich they could buy off the Israelis. The Israelis will bend over backwards to accomodate rich people. It isn't fair or right; but life is like that. 
      
    PS. Israel's policies are empeding a successful Palestinian private sector.
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    Anand
    You keep asking the same question,it's getting rather dull
    This time however you've also provided the answer.
    Please provide a <span style="font-weight: bold;">plan of action</span> for the Palestinians to become rich. No Just less hungry will do.
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  41. Anand
    Ever since I was a kid I used to hear this expression. Maybe  it's true Maybe not.  
    حدودك يا اسرايل من الفرات الي النيل 
    Find someone to translate.

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