Monday, June 1, 2009
Recovery, sucker rally or double-dip recession?
The world's economy is displaying some mixed signs that are difficult to read: while unemployment figures everywhere continue to rise, consumer confidence is making a timid comeback; while signs of overproduction and falling profits for the Chinese economy continue almost unabated, its manufacturing base has expanded for the third consecutive month; while GM, the most emblematic company in US's postwar economic history goes bankrupt, Wall Street rallies; etc. We are going through an economic conjuncture which defies the forecast capacity of the most informed analyst and the most astute financial investor. However, my personal impression is that this is just the prelude to another big correction and that the real bottom of the depression has yet to be reached. What do you think?
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thought you guys might like this one. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/31/dalai-lama-osel-hita-torres
ReplyDeleteEssentially Moy, what you see is the proverbial split in the class structure of the capitalist economy. It is becoming more pronounced, the "winners and losers," which is really a misnomer phrase - better the rape of the majority by the few. What happens is the "winners" are magnified, while the losers are marginalized. By the time the majority wake up they will have fallen so deeply it will never be recoverable, and that is because the recovery has never been for the people, but for the few. However, the backlash will be so great and to such a degree that these filthy few will be decimated by the people, all over the world.
ReplyDeleteEssentially Moy, what you see is the proverbial split in the class structure of the capitalist economy. It is becoming more pronounced, the "winners and losers," which is really a misnomer phrase - better the rape of the majority by the few. What happens is the "winners" are magnified, while the losers are marginalized in the global media. By the time the majority wake up they will have fallen so deeply it will never be recoverable, and that is because the recovery has never been for the people, but for the few. However, the backlash will be so great and to such a degree that these filthy few will be decimated by the people, all over the world.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFXgzmph7Yc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQeeAcJ0aHk
ReplyDeleteHahahahahahah...That's funny.
ReplyDeleteAs always, excellent link V. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteMike Luckovic
ReplyDeleteAnd another good one:
ReplyDeleteJohn Cole
ReplyDeleteThose are very funny TGIA! :-D
ReplyDeleteMorin
ReplyDeleteI think in short hand, what this administration is doing can be seen in the current auto industry scenario. In any and every case, whether auto industry or other the people are being hacked to death in the name of the few -
ReplyDelete"The achievements won by auto workers over decades of struggle—living wages, medical care, retirement benefits, college education for their children—have long been seen by America's financial elite as an obstacle to its profits. The Obama administration is seeking to use its assault on auto workers to set the stage for a sweeping attack on the jobs and living standards of every section of the working class and thereby organize a "recovery" of the US economy based on austerity and poverty for working people and vastly increased profits for the wealthy."
http://notinhisname.blogdrive.com/
Sotomayor
ReplyDeleteMike Lukovich
ReplyDeleteI think it is pretty clear.
ReplyDeleteOf course, some companies are doing well.
ReplyDelete"Making the depth of the housing recession look increasingly scary is the depths of the jobs recession we are still sinking into."
ReplyDeleteThere it is
Well, you are of course correct, Moyhabin. The second crash is coming within the next 2-3 weeks. What's happening now is like the effect of giving a dying patient a large shot of adrenaline: the patient miraculously rises and dances, only to collapse suddenly and be completely dead.
ReplyDeleteJim Sinclair is calling hyperinflation by Christmas of this year. Remember that bet you had with that mediocre gentleman from the southern states of our union (I can't remember his name) about the decline of the US Dollar? Jim Sinclair said previously that when it drops below .72 then hyperinflation will begin:
In today’s world currencies trade in a floating system.
The dollar is up upward valued and devalued daily. Therefore there will never be any official devaluation to the US dollar in the present system.
The US dollar will trade under .7200 on the USDX prior to Christmas 2009.
http://jsmineset.com/2009/05/31/jims-mailbox-159/
All of this, all of it, reverses back the the enrichment of the few - which IS capitalism. There is no adjustment in regard to the people, they have to make the adjustment themselves - globally.
ReplyDelete"If he were alive today, Marx would not look to pinpoint exactly when or how the current crisis would end. Rather, he would perhaps note that such crises are part and parcel of capitalism's continued dynamic existence. Reformist politicians who think they can do away with the inherent class inequalities and recurrent crises of capitalist society are the real romantics of our day, themselves clinging to a naive Utopian vision of what the world might be. If the current crisis has demonstrated one thing, it is that Marx was the greater realist."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaMAZ3862d4
All of this, all of it, reverses back the the enrichment of the few - which IS capitalism. There is no adjustment in regard to the people, they have to make the adjustment themselves - globally.
ReplyDelete"If he were alive today, Marx would not look to pinpoint exactly when or how the current crisis would end. Rather, he would perhaps note that such crises are part and parcel of capitalism's continued dynamic existence. Reformist politicians who think they can do away with the inherent class inequalities and recurrent crises of capitalist society are the real romantics of our day, themselves clinging to a naive Utopian vision of what the world might be. If the current crisis has demonstrated one thing, it is that Marx was the greater realist."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaMAZ3862d4
I can't wait
I'm not as sanguine. Capitalists will in the end be able to "buy more time". But, like the potty mouthed wingnut said here once recently, "Nobody, but NOBODY can predict the future."
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"Nobody, but NOBODY can predict the future."
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Which in itself is a prediction of sorts.
NEW LOW FOR DOLLAR IN 2009 (WITH MORE ECONOMIC EXCUSES)
ReplyDeletehttp://money.cnn.com/2009/06/01/markets/dollar.reut/index.htm
Hey no one needs predictions, I am just looking for honest observaions
ReplyDeleteSi, compay. Tu lo has dicho.
ReplyDeleteHow absurd. I did not predict the future. I only stated that no could predict it. Of course that is not completey true. I can say "It will rain next year" and I will be correct. But no one will care.
ReplyDeleteBut as far as adding real value, predicting true unknowables with precision. That cannot be done by anyone with consistency. So sorry, making 1000 predictions and 100 come true, that is not clairvoyance, its statistics.
Unless maybe you can point me to A PERSON who conistently makes accurate predictions that are different from consensus. By all means. However, Im not holding my breath.