WASHINGTON — Ahmed Wali Karzai, the brother of the embattled Afghan president and a suspected drug trafficker, has been on the CIA payroll for most of the past eight years, The New York Times reported.
The US spy agency pays Karzai for a variety of services, the newspaper said, such as fielding recruits for an Afghan paramilitary force operating at the CIA's direction in and around his home city of Kandahar, a Taliban stronghold.
Keep in mind that many uniformed GIs have a very negative view of the green boy scouts at the CIA. The CIA guys don't know honor. God knows what the CIA is up to, or if they are doing their own thing in defiance of ISAF commander McChrystal. My suspision is that the CIA is idealogically infiltrated by the Pakistani ISI and Saudi intelligence. They often seem more Saudi and Pakistanis than the Saudi and Pakistanis are. Quite sad actually.
ReplyDeleteDoes Ahmed Wali Karzai work with the Pakistanis and Saudis? I don't know.
A different take on Ahmed Wali Karzai is mentioned in the comment section here:
http://www.cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawama/2009/10/most-important-article-afghanistan-youll-read-week.html#comments
Ahmed Wali Karzai probably deals with many bad guys (Taliban, warlords, drug lords, Pakistanis, Saudis), given that he is in Kandahar. He might have put the CIA and ISI in touch with bad people?
Deals with many bad guys? He is a bad guy. He is a drug dealer.
ReplyDeleteLots of discussion on Ahmad Wali Karzai on this blog on many posts:
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The ANA and ANP were forbidden from arresting certain people in Kandahar. The suspicion was because Ahmad Wali Karzai was protecting them.
The popular and highly effective commander of all Afghan National Police in Kandahar province was recently assasinated. Some suspect that Ahmad Wali Karzai and his allies had a hand in it. {As some of you know, ISAF troops haven't generally been inside Kandahar, except for some Canadian embedded advisors for the ANP. They lived with Afghan police in their police stations.} Even the ANA generally didn't operate inside Kandahar. Since the assasination of the police chief, security has deteriorated. Karzai has been sending ANA into Kandahar. Will the Afghan President request ISAF to enter Kandahar? No such request has yet been made to my knowledge?
There is so much misunderstanding in the internatioanal discussion of Afghanistan about its sophisticated and complex mosaic. A lot happens inside Afghanistan that isn't related to the Taliban. For that matter, there are 20 major Taliban groups with different agendas. Many are primarily organized crime outfits that call themselves "Taliban" because they like the name. Other Taliban groups are different.
There are so many rumors flying around inside Afghanistan. Some GIs and ISAF troops from other countries clearly agree with you. But I would like to see actual evidence.
ReplyDeleteMost of these rumors need to be investigated. Could UNAMA (UN mission inside Afghanistan) do this? Would the Afghan parliament let UNAMA do this?
The CIA with one brother, and the other brother being part of Unocal is like a hand fitting into a glove. The CIA is always dispensed to make sure that corporate interests are on top, it is like bread and butter. So no surprises here, unless you are an imbecile that thinks this is free enterprise.
ReplyDeleteHey not too fast dumdshit! It says 'SUSPECT'..
ReplyDelete<span> He is a bad guy. He is a drug dealer</span>
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<span>Hey, not too fast dumdshit! It says 'SUSPECT'..</span>
Anand, if you are not on the payroll of the US govt., I am made of Swiss cheese.
ReplyDeleteThat was me, Molly
ReplyDelete<span>Anand, if you are not on the payroll of the US govt., I am made of Swiss cheese.</span>
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And I'd be all babaghanouj.
What the hell does that suppose to mean Molly?
ReplyDeleteBy the way, V, some GIs, think that Karzai works for Savak, or Iranian intelligence. As you remember, it is the Iranians who backed Karzai against the Taliban. Karzai lived in Iran until 2001. It is Iran who initially pushed for Karzai to be Afghanistan's first President at Bonn in 2001.
Karzai has strong support from Iran, Russia, India, China, Uzbekistan, Turkey and some other Stans. These are enemies of the Taliban and probably support Karzai for that reason. This is one reason Karzai has so much leverage over the United States in negotiations with the Obama administration. I have heard that Karzai sometimes refusess to meet with Holbrooke.
However, the CIA is historically close to the Pakistani ISI and Saudi intelligence. Could some four some been going on between them and <span>Ahmad Wali Karzai? Was the CIA going off on its own without informing ISAF commanding general McChrystal?</span>
Some national security types are asking exactly this question at:<span>http://www.cnas.org/blogs/abumuqawama
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One widely held belief among Afghans is that the British, and maybe the Americans secretly back the Taliban against them. What other explanation is there for the surge in violent attacks against the much beloved ANA and ANP, many ask?
If the CIA, ISI, and Saudis have been dirty with <span>Ahmad Wali Karzai, this will add to these rumors.
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I don't know what is meant by "Unocal"? What is wrong with a pipeline from the Stans through Afghanistan through Pakistan into India? Everyone benefits. The Stans get higher prices on their Natural Gas (NG) exports, Afghanistan gets a transit fee. Pakistan gets lower cost NG to use for domestic electricity use and a transit fee. India gets cheaper NG. Everyone wins. Am I completely crazy? What am I missing?
V, many of us believe that free markets help poor people.
One of the reasons I hope Abdullah defeats Karzai in the Presidential election is because of <span> Ahmad Wali Karzai.</span>
I opposed Karzai in both the 2004 and 2009 Presidential elections.
TGIA, consider linking to the latest 240 page PDF Afghan national poll:
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Page 198 shows the popularity of each institution in Afghanistan. The ANA, at 91%, is far ahead of everything else, including far ahead of Afghan NGOs (61%), international NGOs (66%), and local militias (37%.)
This is a question for everyone, does anyone support violent attacks against the ANA, either by the Taliban or anyone else?
<span>"...and some other Stans"</span>
ReplyDeleteLIKE ANAN AND STAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7-d2zEtDfc
Many former Soviet countries end with the suffix "Stan."
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