Anger is a legitimate emotion in the face of injustice. Passive acceptance of evil is not a virtue.
Sunday, July 31, 2011
Honduran Police Burn Community to the Ground..Homes, churches, schools, and crops all destroyed
Homes, churches, schools, and crops all destroyed as the post-coup government continues to side with wealthy plantation owners over the country's organized farmers
According to this piece the land was never purchased from the owers. Nor was rent being paid. The judicial system ruled that the occupancy of the land was illegal. Hence the eviction.
This sort of thing happens all over the world.
The only way to oppose something like this is to oppose the principle of property rights. Is this a road that you want to go down? China and Vietnam now support property rights. Even Raul Castro is introducing property rights in Cuba.
The land on which this village was established 12 years ago was promised by the then gov't to this community. They didn't occupy it illegally. The coup which brought a new gov't supported bvy the rich land owners themselves simply changed the law and broke the promises of the old gov't.
I don't have all the facts either. But from what I heard, the land never belonged to this community. There was a proposal 3 years ago for the government to use "eminent domain" type laws to purchse the land paying a market price and for the locals to buy the land with a loan, which they paid market rate interest on.
In other words the proposal was for the locals to go severely into debt and pay large interest payments for the land.
BTW, you oppose the use of eminent domain in Palestine and Israel. [Many free marketeers would agree with you since they oppose "eminent domain" as a matter of principle.]
But you support eminent domain in Honduras.
I am sure you have a consistent explanation for why you oppose eminent domain in some places but support eminent domain in other places. The decision to share your reasoning belongs to you.
TGIA, justice is a good thing. Support it everywhere.
For the record, the idea of using eminent domain to purchase property paying market prices where locals get loans to pay for them does sound reasonable to me. But need more info.
It's the golpistas breaking the law, not the campesinos (for the blind and the genocide apologists having trouble understanding the video above).
The following complaint was submitted through the office of Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) by AfGJ National Co-Coordinator Chuck Kaufman after he returned from leading a delegation to Honduras that had a dangerous stand-off with Honduran Police. July 18, 2011 Dear Rep. Raul Grijalva: I recently returned to my home in Tucson after leading a delegation to Honduras June 27-July 5, 2011. On the morning of July 1, 2011, 15-members or our delegation of US citizens were in an hours long stand-off with heavily armed Honduran police who were attempting to conduct an eviction of a peasant community without a judge present or any eviction order, as required by Honduran law. http://www.quotha.net/node/1901
<span><span>Mirdad Thanks for your post. The disgusting "free market, "anti socialist" "anti big gov't" who is defending this action by the police is a notorius troll of incredible thickness. He squatts here as he seems to enjoy driving whomever he's interacting with to helplessness as nothing seems to get into his thick skull. A rarely seen case study in stubborness, callousness and failure to see right from wrong in any given action. I leave his comments because they speak of themselves.</span></span>
<span>It's with this post, I think that I reached my tipping point with anan. To see his callous indifference to the fate of the poor and the dispossessed, siding scum of the earth of landowners blew my wind beyond what I was expecting. This sentence:
<span>The judicial system ruled that the occupancy of the land was illegal. Hence the eviction.</span> That it's the recent coup that allowed such thing to happen, he couldn't care less. As long as they are "free market" "anti big government" and " pro free wheeling capitalism"</span>
According to this piece the land was never purchased from the owers. Nor was rent being paid. The judicial system ruled that the occupancy of the land was illegal. Hence the eviction.
ReplyDeleteThis sort of thing happens all over the world.
The only way to oppose something like this is to oppose the principle of property rights. Is this a road that you want to go down? China and Vietnam now support property rights. Even Raul Castro is introducing property rights in Cuba.
Please be consistent.
(Spit in your face)
ReplyDeleteThe land on which this village was established 12 years ago was promised by the then gov't to this community. They didn't occupy it illegally. The coup which brought a new gov't supported bvy the rich land owners themselves simply changed the law and broke the promises of the old gov't.
ReplyDeleteYour evidence?
ReplyDeleteI don't have all the facts either. But from what I heard, the land never belonged to this community. There was a proposal 3 years ago for the government to use "eminent domain" type laws to purchse the land paying a market price and for the locals to buy the land with a loan, which they paid market rate interest on.
In other words the proposal was for the locals to go severely into debt and pay large interest payments for the land.
BTW, you oppose the use of eminent domain in Palestine and Israel. [Many free marketeers would agree with you since they oppose "eminent domain" as a matter of principle.]
But you support eminent domain in Honduras.
I am sure you have a consistent explanation for why you oppose eminent domain in some places but support eminent domain in other places. The decision to share your reasoning belongs to you.
TGIA, justice is a good thing. Support it everywhere.
For the record, the idea of using eminent domain to purchase property paying market prices where locals get loans to pay for them does sound reasonable to me. But need more info.
The evidence? Listen carefully to what they're saying in the video, will you?
ReplyDeleteAnother thing. Please go away. Just leave this blog. You're a failure of a human being. Go away.
It's the golpistas breaking the law, not the campesinos (for the blind and the genocide apologists having trouble understanding the video above).
ReplyDeleteThe following complaint was submitted through the office of Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) by AfGJ National Co-Coordinator Chuck Kaufman after he returned from leading a delegation to Honduras that had a dangerous stand-off with Honduran Police.
July 18, 2011
Dear Rep. Raul Grijalva:
I recently returned to my home in Tucson after leading a delegation to Honduras June 27-July 5, 2011. On the morning of July 1, 2011, 15-members or our delegation of US citizens were in an hours long stand-off with heavily armed Honduran police who were attempting to conduct an eviction of a peasant community without a judge present or any eviction order, as required by Honduran law.
http://www.quotha.net/node/1901
<span><span>Mirdad
ReplyDeleteThanks for your post. The disgusting "free market, "anti socialist" "anti big gov't" who is defending this action by the police is a notorius troll of incredible thickness. He squatts here as he seems to enjoy driving whomever he's interacting with to helplessness as nothing seems to get into his thick skull. A rarely seen case study in stubborness, callousness and failure to see right from wrong in any given action. I leave his comments because they speak of themselves.</span></span>
You've got to admire his chutzpah, TG - the fantasist who conjures 'facts' out of thin air demanding your evidence.
ReplyDelete<span>It's with this post, I think that I reached my tipping point with anan. To see his callous indifference to the fate of the poor and the dispossessed, siding scum of the earth of landowners blew my wind beyond what I was expecting. This sentence:
ReplyDelete<span>The judicial system ruled that the occupancy of the land was illegal. Hence the eviction.</span>
That it's the recent coup that allowed such thing to happen, he couldn't care less. As long as they are "free market" "anti big government" and " pro free wheeling capitalism"</span>