Thursday, June 18, 2009

Mousavi and..."the neoliberal bastard"

A colleague and friend sent me this (she/he does not want to be identified): "Mousavi was (along with a couple of other major "reformists") were hotheaded rightwing Islamists back in the 1980s, and Mousavi in particular was responsible for purging universities of lefties, Jews, and Bahaiis. the other two people most associated with this same move from being university purgers to radical reformists are Abdulkarim Sorush and MohsenKadviar. The former is a philosopher and the latter a cleric, both of whom have very sophisticated arguments (the former based on Gadamer's hermeneutics; the latter based on his extensive training and certification as a faqih) about separating the mosque from the state. All three were involved with the early purges and now face the same fate...the other thing is that although Ahmadinejad has very populist rhetoric he
is actually a neoliberal bastard economically, so...."
(The Angry Arab)
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21 comments:

  1. MarionJune 18, 2009 at 7:37 AM

    If we strip away the fact that Iran is a revolutionary religious state,  what is going on in Iran is for the most part a class struggle, that is being stoked by greedy outsiders looking out for their selfish interests. It is a struggle between those leaders who are being labeled as the reformists and secularists that are largely representing the corrupted elite Iranians and being supported by the West,  and those leaders who are being labeled as non-moderate religious conservatives that are largely representing and being supported by the less fortunate Iranians and also largely being recognized as legitmite by the West's challengers in the region .....

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  2. MarionJune 18, 2009 at 8:35 AM

    Reports of interest regardng Iran:

    The situation in Iran

    http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2009/06/insider-report-about-events-in-iran.html

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    Elections

    http://www.amconmag.com/larison/2009/06/16/elections/

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    Rafsanjani's gambit backfires

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF16Ak05.html

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    These are the birth pangs of Obama's new regional order

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jun/18/iran-elections-us-foreign-policy

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    Khamenei rides a storm in a tea cup

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF18Ak01.html

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    Ahmadinejad tries to douse the flames

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF17Ak03.html

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    Ahmadinejad won. Get over it

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0609/23745.html

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    Iran's enemies are circling

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KF17Ak02.html

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    Iran elections 2009

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PCaN2KBXnc

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    Why the U.S. Wants to Delegitmize the Iranian Elections
    Are You Ready for War With a Demonized Iran?

    http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts06162009.html



    Insha Allah, more to come.....

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  3. MarionJune 18, 2009 at 8:39 AM

    What happened to my other post which I worked so hard on putting together in regards to more intersting information on Iran?

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  4. MarionJune 18, 2009 at 8:41 AM

    I guess I was a bit premature on asking that question...

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  5. MarionJune 18, 2009 at 9:25 AM

    Thus far the silence to my postings are deafening....

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  6. vzaJune 18, 2009 at 11:09 AM

    These are good links. They run the gamut from the usual Zionist/US conspiracy  stuff to more sane analysis  It's just been rather quiet around here lately.

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  7. vJune 18, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    We are busy reading to your bullshit vza...lol :)

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  8. vJune 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM

    CIA HAS DISTRIBUTED 400 MILLION DOLLAST INSIDE OF IRAN TO EVOKE A REVOLUTION

    http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/cia-has-distributed-400-million-dollars-inside-iran-to-evoke-a-revolution/

    BBC CAUGHT IN MASS PUBLIC DECEPTION WITH IRAN PROPAGANDA

    http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/bbc-caught-in-mass-public-deception-with-iran-propaganda/

    CROWDSOUCING CYBER WARFARE IN IRAN

    "Activists had <span style="text-decoration: underline;">encouraged</span> anti-government protesters to use automatic web page refresh tools such as Pagereboot.com, to hit government run site. But they have also developed custom DoS tools. One such tool, called BWRaeper was posted to an Iranian sports discussion forum on Monday. Others are being promoted via Twitter and blogs, and hosted by activists in the US."

    http://pakalert.wordpress.com/2009/06/17/cyberwarfare-begins-in-iran/

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  9. vJune 18, 2009 at 2:33 PM

    She thinks by using the word "conspiracy" that she dismisses the overt and open activity of here government and the Zionist twin. Yoiu have to be one of the most ignorant people I have ever met in regard to statecraft, or just a big disnigenuous complicit liar - wanna direct us to more Jerusalem Post stories vza?

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  10. vJune 18, 2009 at 2:36 PM

    She thinks by using the word "conspiracy" that she dismisses the overt and open activity of her government and the Zionist twin. You have to be one of the most ignorant people I have ever met in regard to statecraft, or just a big disnigenuous, complicit liar - wanna direct us to more Jerusalem Post stories vza?

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  11. DJJune 18, 2009 at 3:27 PM

    Thanks Marion.

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  12. vJune 18, 2009 at 4:00 PM

    Hey, while we are at it, take a look at the carnage of the civilain population in Afghanistan -

    http://informationclearinghouse.info/article22859.htm

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  13. vJune 18, 2009 at 4:11 PM

    Or some true history of American Foreign Policy -

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21000.htm

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  14. vzaJune 18, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    I don't wanna do anything, As far as JP articles, why, even your comrades have posted links to the Jerusalem Post when it suits their purposes. Get a grip.
     You must be a real treat in cell meetings. Too bad you weren't around for China's Cultural Revolution or Pol Pot's little reworking of Cambodia.  You would have relished that wouldn't you?

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  15. vJune 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM

    I just though I would ask, in refernece to the above links, does anyone think anything has changed? As far as American policy in this part of the world (and elsewhere among other "thrid world" countries for that matter)?

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  16. GuestJune 18, 2009 at 8:00 PM

    Sadly, no....

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  17. GuestJune 18, 2009 at 8:01 PM

    You are welcome DJ.

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  18. vJune 18, 2009 at 8:35 PM

    thank you

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  19. vJune 19, 2009 at 12:07 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEacr_wPQ0E

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  20. vJune 19, 2009 at 12:16 AM

    The question that must be asked is simple - do you think that the Israelis use this infleunce in the the media only to paint what they want regarding the Israeli/Palestinian issue, or do they extend it to other areas of their interest like painting horrible pictures of, oh...Iran? I'll leave that to your own judgement

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  21. vJune 19, 2009 at 12:29 AM

    Secondly, do you believe all of the covert programs that were initiated under the Bush administration against Iran were halted under the Obama administration?  There is a telling way to find out - part of these programs was a massive media campaign, has this ceased? No, so the underbelly, which Obama likes to employ trying to roll back the overt in favor of the covert has not stopped. There are many other ways to imflame target nations rather than overt actions, and you can count on a more covert "intelligent" approach from this currnt administration, which can prove to be just as deadly.

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